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re: Michael Vick's advice for Colin Kaepernick? 'Just go clean-cut'

Posted on 7/18/17 at 10:49 am to
Posted by LSUMastermind
South Florida
Member since Jun 2008
897 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 10:49 am to
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1. Turn on light if not mid-day.
2. Place hands on steering wheel.
3. Never store your weapon with or near your information.
4. Inform Police officer when he approaches.
5. Offer to allow him to disarm you.
6. Make no sudden movements.
7. If officer becomes uncomfortable and says stop, you stop.

These are 7 rules to make sure both you and the officer both feel safe and leave the situation unharmed. Failing any, but especially 6 of 7 is asking for trouble. The NRA choosing to back the officer here has nothing to do with hypocrisy over the 2nd amendment or one's right to conceal carry. The reason you take a class in order to obtain your CCP is because their is a level of responsibility you take on and following protocol can save lives. Is the NRA supposed to take the side of all gun owners even when the situation was caused by them not observing training and curriculum? Guy gets shot in the woods because the person with a legal gun and legal hunting permit didn't visualize his target, is the NRA supposed to have his back as well?

he did all of this, was reaching for his i.d., even some NRA members thought this was a bad shoot.
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
7781 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 10:53 am to
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he did all of this

No, he did #4.

1. Turn on light if not mid-day. Not mid-day, but not dusk so would be his option here, not doing so isn't a huge deal, but im probably turning mine on to be safe.
2. Place hands on steering wheel. Nope.
3. Never store your weapon with or near your information. The gun was by his side that his license was on.
4. Inform Police officer when he approaches. He got one right!!!
5. Offer to allow him to disarm you. On both he and the cop for not doing this as soon as a weapon was known to be in the vehicle.
6. Make no sudden movements.Reached where his hands weren't visible supposedly going for his license.
7. If officer becomes uncomfortable and says stop, you stop.He argued that he wasn't going to grab the gun and continued reaching.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111136 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 11:26 am to
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he did all of this
How do you know that? There's no video that I've seen released that shows all of his movements inside the car.

I'm not saying we can assume it's correct, but based on the officer's actions, we certainly know that maybe #6 and certainly #7 or in question. Unless you think Castile stopped when the officer said stop, and the officer shot him anyway? Possible, but again, IMO it means it's certainly no guarantee that he did all 7, since we couldn't see him.
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