re: 5* RB Lorenzo Lingard to Miami

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Are you really using the Outback Bowl (a de facto home game) as your metric that the defense is going to have no dropoff? All of this to a team that beat Michigan?

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Yeah, blowing out the team that beat Michigan is pretty significant.

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Something about true freshman etc. etc..

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Yeah, a five star quarterback can be helped significantly by a veteran offensive line and two elite running backs with more talent on the flanks than a Redshirt freshman (Grier) who has two veterans (one is DII) and three raw, never started a game in their lives on the offensive line with one ''quality'' quarterback and receiver.

The difference in talent regarding the Florida and Georgia offense is greater than that on the defensive end -- which was greatly depleted against a team like LSU (which Georgia could only dream of beating) and Iowa, which had picked up quite a bit of steam at the end of the year.

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I mean, if anything in this thread could be considered herping, it would likely be the infighting of UF fans all over a coach that you seem to think is doing a great job,

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Literally posted the opposite. I said we were going in the opposite direction, not that it was a great job.

He took a team that was regularly struggling to bowl and got us to back to back 10 win seasons.

Kirby took a team that was regularly getting nine wins a season and struggled to bowl.

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Again, it's certainly possible that Mac and his staff just have a keen eye for talent, but the current trend of lower rated players can't be one that most UF fans are happy about.

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It's to be seen, McElwain has taken three stars and made them look quite serviceable.

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Getting worked up over year one performance would be ridiculous, particularly with a freshman QB, a patchwork OL, and a first year HC.

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Yeah, we had that too -- except as I said it was worse.

Except we had Treon Harris, who wasn't even really a quarterback and who never hit over 50% of his passes.

So you had a much better quarterback (plenty of freshman quarterbacks, especially five stars, come in and are productive) and a veteran line.

Catalina was your Halter (DII) player.

Wynn had played in 24 games vs. Thurman who had 10 starts.

Kublanow had 36 starts to Dillard's 0.

Pyke had 23 starts to Riles 0.

Gaillard is your Riles (Both were defensive ends) and had zero starts to Sharpe's 0 starts.

We push at: Two DII players, two DL's playing offensive line but the rest is alllllllll Georgia andb y a whole lot in regard to experience and stars together.

Sucks, but maybe it's your coaching.