I will say this, I think pretty much everyone has a point here.

UGA fans are right - UF's recruiting has not been what it was ON PAPER. There are stats that point that out. UGA's recruiting is also better than I have ever seen it, on paper.

Florida fans have continued to move the bar on what represents success by this staff. When they were hired, last year was supposed to be there year. Now there year is maybe 2018? I don't know, what was advertised by some as a quick rebuild with the right coach is now touted as a 5-6 year rebuilding project. That seems disingenuous to me. But there are certainly a lot of positive things to point to - a seemingly higher conversion rate on the players they do recruit, more people in these classes seem to be ready to contribute than in Muschamp's classes, the fact that UF has won 10 games 2 years in a row, and won the east twice, etc.

Now, while I think TJ has been a bit TOO over the top negative, there are certainly negative things to point to with this coaching staff. Which is why I am still pretty firmly on the fence. The decision to stick with LDR against Arkansas, the complete and utter meltdown at Tennessee, etc. (not to mention a lot of crap in year one, but most people give a pass for that).

I find it hilarious that this blow out has to happen on the recruiting forum, simply because TJ isn't allowed on the gator forum. I understand he messed up which is why he got banned, but I think it's time to forgive and forget and take these debates back to the gator board.