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I'm not surprised UF won 10 games. I'm surprised we won 10 games the way we did which is why WM was fired. Mac won the same WM did but with an easier schedule. Imo that's worse because he's an offensive coach. He's yet to field an offense higher than WM last yr. That's bad especially since his overall recruiting is worse.

You also ignored how a ''light'' offensive line and receiving crew is an excuse for Kirby but not for McElwain. Either those are valid points for one team or they are not.

McElwain had six total offensive linemen, one productive receiver, almost an entire backfield of unknown running backs and no kicker to gin up points. If a third of those problems are sufficient for Smart, then they should be much more sufficient for McElwain.

As for the not getting offensive production: He has had no quarterback and the line his first year rotated three freshmen.

Before you say other teams had it: They did not have the dynamic of 1. Having no quarterback, and 2. Also having no offensive line with 3. No receiving threat outside of DRob and 4. One running back who wasn't an underclassman.

No team had that combination, and even worse down the stretch, playing against LSU, Alabama and Florida State with our RG playing Center and still no real quarterback -- you can't expect it to be better in a year or even two. There are MULTIPLE sites that said rebuilding the Florida Offense was at least a two year project.

https://campusinsiders.com/news/florida-football-outlook-rebuild-working-expect-another-piecemeal-season-05-06-2016/

You want a six year problem to be fixed in two years, and that's just neither realistic nor feasible.

Similarly, his recruiting has been pretty good and he has beaten two teams that had outrecruited Florida the last three years in Georgia and LSU (now four years in a row for both teams).

Now, I know your math is bad -- but that was Muschamp's last year that's encompassed in that, meaning the recruiting slide happened before McElwain stepped on campus.

We were 7th in the SEC in Muschamp's last year (2014).

So, to sum it up: The problems for recruiting and the offense were started a year before he was even here, and six years before he was on campus.

Don't you at least want to wait a little bit? I mean, the offense was in tatters both years he was here because of abysmal recruiting and the underclassmen on defense don't seem to have missed a step.

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Posted on 2/23/17 at 3:42 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom

No I didn't I said the talent level he had to work with was bad. Try to keep up. Mac returned pretty much the entire OL. Inexperience is no excuse he should've put them in a place to run his offense. Smart had far less talent than Mac but he's fixing that through recruiting. Mac didn't have 6 OL last year he had 13-15. Drop the excuses.

McCoy started 4 games
Taylor 12
Ivey 12
Dillard 8
Johnson 8
Jordan 7
Harkless 1

Dillard, Riles and Jordan were hurt either before the season or during. The only ones that didn't return from the year before were McCoy and Taylor. Go look at the OLs on our lads and you'll see many other teams from Texas, bama, Houston, etc did as well and had no problem moving the ball.

Mac had KT, Grier, Driskel, Powell, Lane, DRob, Mcgee, Goolsby and an all star defense when he arrived. He chose to bring in LDR and AA. Those were his picks. He could've kept Grier after his suspension. Uga, SCAR and other schools chose to go with freshman QBs but not Mac. He left an injured LDR in the game, he has underrecruited the position and underdeveloped it given Franks nor Trask are even close to being ready. That's on him. Just look at the projects at QB in Franks,Allen and Trask. Its why we're in the market for a grad transfer if the SEC allows us to take one. Mac is paid $4M plus to figure it out and he hasn't and his recruiting won't fix this mess. It will make it worse. Link them. So far all you have is excuses.

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