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Posted on 12/10/16 at 6:59 am to reel_gator8
Posted on 12/10/16 at 6:59 am to reel_gator8
I was a huge Foley supporter when he was here. I still am deep down, really. The reason he was so great was because he was able to do what was necessary for every sport to be as successful as possible on the field. The downfall of that, and what hurt Foley in the eyes of the fans, is that he was too worried about those other sports to get facility upgrades for football. You can't ever lose sight of the fact that football plays the bills.
We have to stop acting like our football program is LSUs or Tennessees. We're not broke like them. Hell, they're broke and STILL do facility upgrades. Facility upgrades help in recruiting, they help in the psyche of the team, and it gives players more resources to get better on the field. I wish we would invest in our football program fully. Stop blocking hires of guys like Locksley, let Mac hire huge support staffs, oversign our recruiting classes. We want to be a powerful and dominant program like Bama but we don't have the administration that's willing to do what's necessary to compete at an elite level, despite having more money and resources than any program in the country. It boggles my mind.
We have to stop acting like our football program is LSUs or Tennessees. We're not broke like them. Hell, they're broke and STILL do facility upgrades. Facility upgrades help in recruiting, they help in the psyche of the team, and it gives players more resources to get better on the field. I wish we would invest in our football program fully. Stop blocking hires of guys like Locksley, let Mac hire huge support staffs, oversign our recruiting classes. We want to be a powerful and dominant program like Bama but we don't have the administration that's willing to do what's necessary to compete at an elite level, despite having more money and resources than any program in the country. It boggles my mind.
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Posted on 12/10/16 at 9:01 am to atlgator
I cant disagree with most of your thoughts Atl. But it isnt like we were back in the Dickey days either....when Pell came to UF he was appalled at our facilities...HC coaches office was spartan and had worn furniture etc etc. The one good thing Pell did was immediately set out to correct the facilities overall. When Spurrier arrived he also did some arm twisting to get better equipment and upgrades to be able to compete.
Many may not know this, but Spurrier and his wife Jeri were huge supporters of the women's athletic programs and donated $ 50,000 every single year to women's sports.
Our overall sports program is second to none. But...as you pointed out, football is the bread winner and must receive the lion's share of $$$. And we have been successful overall in the football program, except for the injury riddled 2013 season...no losing records in ages. Look at UT and how they have been pitiful since firing Fulmer. We could be in worse shape than we are, a lot worse.
Could Foley have been more supportive of Spurrier when the coach blistered the media with video clips of the girls school and their dirty play? Yeah I think so. Foley probably felt it would have been more prudent to have it discussed privately and wait for results before going to the media. Of course diddy bowden and his AD hart turned it around as if Spurrier was being a baby.
When mickey andrews was dc at the girls school..he taught his players to be dirty and take key players out of the game in a "win at all costs" attitude. The girls school was rotten to the core back then.
Many may not know this, but Spurrier and his wife Jeri were huge supporters of the women's athletic programs and donated $ 50,000 every single year to women's sports.
Our overall sports program is second to none. But...as you pointed out, football is the bread winner and must receive the lion's share of $$$. And we have been successful overall in the football program, except for the injury riddled 2013 season...no losing records in ages. Look at UT and how they have been pitiful since firing Fulmer. We could be in worse shape than we are, a lot worse.
Could Foley have been more supportive of Spurrier when the coach blistered the media with video clips of the girls school and their dirty play? Yeah I think so. Foley probably felt it would have been more prudent to have it discussed privately and wait for results before going to the media. Of course diddy bowden and his AD hart turned it around as if Spurrier was being a baby.
When mickey andrews was dc at the girls school..he taught his players to be dirty and take key players out of the game in a "win at all costs" attitude. The girls school was rotten to the core back then.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 5:30 pm to atlgator
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what hurt Foley in the eyes of the fans, is that he was too worried about those other sports to get facility upgrades for football. You can't ever lose sight of the fact that football plays the bills.
Football also gets more than its share of money spent on it. By a wide, wide margin. It takes an insane amount of money to support football operations.
Also, Foley was the athletic director, not the football director. His job was to make all of Gator athletics excellent and he did that. I find it impossible for me to criticize him for making UF the best athletic department in the nation.
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We're not broke like them.
True but the money spent in college athletics is getting stupid. The bubble is going to burst eventually. I think that in the near future we will appreciate Foley's frugality.
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Facility upgrades help in recruiting
The "prettier is better" mindset is disturbing. That said, winning is still superior.
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they help in the psyche of the team
Then they are weak.
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gives players more resources to get better on the field
This is just an excuse people use to justify ridiculous expenditures and laziness, thinking somehow the facility piece will make up for hard work and desire.
I'm OK with expanding the staff and over-signing a bit so long as ethical lines are not crossed.
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