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re: *Super Dee Duper Official X's and O's discussion of LSU vs Alabama Thread*

Posted on 11/2/16 at 5:56 pm to
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 11/2/16 at 5:56 pm to
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Stewart vs jackson probly = maybe even jackson


I'm sorry but no. Stewart is our most physical receiver, he's not at a disadvantage against a guy like Jackson. LSU would be better served putting Jackson on Ridley and White on Stewart. Ardarius will big boy Jackson.

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And OJ vs Adams = adams completely shut down Ingram who is not as good but very close to OJ


I've seen Engrams name a lot this week. No one really seems to be accounting for the fact that Adams could afford to focus all of his attention on Engram because Ole Miss is not a threat to run the ball. Alabama is. If LSU wants to try to take away OJ Howard with Adams then good luck to the kid, but Adams will be needed in run support Saturday night.
This post was edited on 11/2/16 at 5:57 pm
Posted by Triple Daves
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Posted on 11/2/16 at 6:04 pm to
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I've seen Engrams name a lot this week. No one really seems to be accounting for the fact that Adams could afford to focus all of his attention on Engram because Ole Miss is not a threat to run the ball. Alabama is. If LSU wants to try to take away OJ Howard with Adams then good luck to the kid, but Adams will be needed in run support Saturday night.


Yep. The biggest difference in this game (in general) is that....

Almost everyone else has to bring a man into the box to help with LSU's run game. Every other game they play LSU has numbers advantages on TEs and WRs. Alabama not only has better athletes in the secondary than everyone else LSU plays, but Alabama doesn't bring a man down into the box the majority of the time. Therefore, not only is LSU playing better defensive players, they are playing more of them in the back end.

On the flip side, Alabama is one of the only teams that LSU is forced to cheat against the run against. Generally, LSU can stay back (like Alabama does to LSU) and allow guys like Adams to concentrate fully on the back end or in an individual matchup (like against Ole Miss with Engram). That likely won't be the case against Alabama.

Therefore, a lot of the things that happen for LSU against almost everyone else on the schedule aren't exactly the same against Alabama because of what Alabama can do against LSU in the trenches, which is generally something other teams cannot do to them there. That totally changes the rest of the game and matchups, because LSU is built (even when a bit more open) around the philosophy that they dominate the trenches. If they were spread team it wouldn't be as big a deal, because they would already play from the notion that they lose the trenches. However, their identity (and philosophy) is built off dominating the trenches.

This post was edited on 11/2/16 at 6:12 pm
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 11/2/16 at 6:07 pm to
First off Jackson has been awesome this year and he certainly can handle Stewart I watch every bama game and don't find Stewart to be all that physical I'm more impressed by his speed. Anyway jackson is over 6-1 so he's plenty big. As far as adams not paying attention to OJ of course he will. We are talking matchups in the passing game and to think nobody's gonna guard Howard is reaching. Adams is a top 2 safety nationally and will go in the first round ahead of Howard and while I don't see him shutting him down completely the way he did Ingram. Holding him to 4/5 catches and under 70 yards is very doable. I'm conceding bamas front 7 will outplay our oline and the dline is a big advantage. Your inability to give any credit says more about your perception than mine.
This post was edited on 11/2/16 at 6:09 pm
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