re: So we are #4 in the first playoff poll

Meyer and Saban have better talent than everyone

Patterson is 23-18 in the Big 12, very comparable to Sumlin's record, so if you're counting him you're counting Sumlin

Justin Fuente was 17-15 in CUSA so same goes for him

Fitzgerald is 39-46 in the Big Ten, I don't consider anything below 60% winning percentage "consistently beating" so not sure how you consider below 500 consistently beating

Petersen is 13-10 in the PAC, I think it's too early to lump him in with Dantonio, Snyder and Harbaugh. He absolutely had superior talent at Boise. I do think he's an excellent coach though and will join those guys