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re: Former Alabama player Quinton Dial showing off his patriotic side tonight
Posted on 9/13/16 at 11:29 am to bamasgot13
Posted on 9/13/16 at 11:29 am to bamasgot13
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It's not THAT he's sitting/kneeling. It's WHEN he's sitting/kneeling that bothers people.
I think it's both, a lot of people just use the latter to avoid discussing the former.
Just my impression. It's easier to dismiss his actions than it is to dismiss the reasons for his actions.
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that is NOT what they think the flag stands for.
It stands for something different for everyone. This country has a very long history of oppressing and subjogating the black race and people of color, so to him that's what the flag represents. To others it stands for the fights our ancestors have made to secure our "freedom". To others, it's just a piece of cloth that doesn't have much meaning. Projecting your idea of what the flag represents onto someone else is pretty un-American, IMO.
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Posted on 9/13/16 at 11:43 am to The Spleen
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This country has a very long history of oppressing and subjogating the black race
History? Yes. Present does not match that history. We've twice elected a black president. The attorney general (highest law enforcement office in the land) has been an African American for 8 years. That oppression exists, but it isn't universal. There are pockets of the country that do it and those pockets need to be addressed, but the country as a whole has progressed dramatically in the last 50 years.
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Projecting your idea of what the flag represents onto someone else is pretty un-American, IMO.
Did you tell that to Colin Kaepernick, b/c sounds like exactly what he's doing, bruh.
It's all about perspective and how you choose to view situations. I like the way Ben Watson views the flag and America. Perfect? Far from it, but he believes in its ideals.
Ben Watson explains what flag/anthem means to him
Posted on 9/13/16 at 1:13 pm to The Spleen
The entire idea that the flag is something far greater than a piece of cloth is what patriotism is about. This country is losing its identity because there are far too many people that want to say the flag is just a piece of cloth. Its an ideal and a belief and pride in ones country that this is about, the flag represents that. There is not oppression anymore that isn't self imposed, everyone has a chance if they work hard and make the right choices. Poor white kids that cant escape deep poverty i am sure feel oppressed, should they protest?, not everyone can be millionaires but everyone has that chance, an opportunity for success if they act right, make good choices and work hard. If oppression really existed, Obama wouldnt have been president, (although i wish he wouldnt have been), pro athletes would not be mostly African American, we wouldnt have successful musicians and actors who are of other races besides white. We have great politicians who are African American like Dr. Ben Carson, or Allen West, we wouldnt have senators, reps, or mayors who are African American if oppression truly existed. If your culture is to smoke dope and talk shite to cops and not act respectable and not seek an education you probably arent going to be very successful, plain and simple, its not oppression, that is just your own fault for your own failures at that point.
This post was edited on 9/13/16 at 2:12 pm
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