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re: Ongoing Baylor controversy/discussion thread

Posted on 6/4/16 at 10:14 am to
Posted by AgSwag1
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Posted on 6/4/16 at 10:14 am to
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Guy I was talking to who knows two high school coaches in the state (I'll even tell you one of them is the former Navasota high coach) told me the both said strong is starting to win over a lot of the high school coaches in the state. Strong comes to the school, will give them his personal cell number, says to call him anytime if they want to come observe a practice, talk about players etc. they then said Sumlin will walk right past them, kinda nod his head as he goes by and that's it, will try to go talk to a player real quick and that's it. You want to talk to Sumlin? Gotta call the football offices and get through 3 secretaries if it happens at all.




This is true and has been for years. Sumlin is a CEO coach, Saban eats and breathes it. You can see the difference in results. This is also is why Sumlin closes so badly and our recruiting is trending down the last few years without JFF buzz. Sumlin will be fired in December if we don't win at least 9 so who gives a frick.
Posted by Chill98
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 6/4/16 at 12:11 pm to
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This is true and has been for years. Sumlin is a CEO coach, Saban eats and breathes it. You can see the difference in results. This is also is why Sumlin closes so badly and our recruiting is trending down the last few years without JFF buzz. Sumlin will be fired in December if we don't win at least 9 so who gives a frick.



You guys are full of it. Saban has the "largest support" staff in the league for a reason. He goes out and hires influential high school and college coaches that can get him the recruits he wants. Other high school coaches gladly line-up hoping for a future "handout" job on the staff. Saban spent almost $3M in non-coaching football support staff this past year.

Tosh Lupoi was one of those support staff until this year (now he is a position coach). He was an "ace recruiter" at Washington until he was investigated for NCAA recruiting violations.

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The NCAA looked into limiting the amount of support staff but decided that it wasn't a battle it wanted to face at this time.

The Sips immediately started expanding their support staff in 2013. This included a new director for recruiting. The biggest uptick in Sip recruiting happened when they hired Jeff Traylor, former Gilmer HS coach, as a TE coach. In addition to Traylor being a connected TX coach they brought in former A&M QB, Jordan Traylor as a GA. Many point to this being the start of the negative recruiting against A&M, because he had contact with most of the A&M current commits and future recruits.

Another aspect that posters continue to forget about is the Texas runs the UIL. They have always had tremendous exposure to coaches because of the fact that they run all of the Texas HS athletics and extracurricular academic activities for the state. Many athletes are exposed to Austin via various state championships and other tournaments.

Finally, look at A&M's offers. More and more are going to out of state (OOS) prospects. TX has plenty of elite talent, but our staff is trying to get the best players to win in the SEC conference and not the Big 12. A&M is offering a ridiculous amount of Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, and California talent. More than half of A&M's projected starting line-up are from OOS and/or transfers or JUCO prospects. Even the Sips are recruiting heavily from Florida and Louisiana now.
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