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Did USCjr mortgage their future?
Posted on 2/9/16 at 12:08 am
Posted on 2/9/16 at 12:08 am
Simple question:
Did USCjr mortgage the next 10 years of their program by sticking with Spurrier for a couple of years too long?
How much damage has been done by subpar recruiting for much of his time there?
Was it worth 11 win seasons, Citrus Bowl victory, an all time highlight, and a meaningless victory over Alabama?
I really think the brass are in it for the long haul with Muschamp.
He's been hired to do a complete rebuild of a (currently) dumpster fire of a program.
Did USCjr mortgage the next 10 years of their program by sticking with Spurrier for a couple of years too long?
How much damage has been done by subpar recruiting for much of his time there?
Was it worth 11 win seasons, Citrus Bowl victory, an all time highlight, and a meaningless victory over Alabama?
I really think the brass are in it for the long haul with Muschamp.
He's been hired to do a complete rebuild of a (currently) dumpster fire of a program.
This post was edited on 2/9/16 at 12:29 am
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Posted on 2/9/16 at 12:18 am to UTodd98
Spurrier is the best thing to ever happen to that program. You clearly know absolutely nothing about SEC football. Carolina went a combined 1-21 going into the turn of the millennium. A long time ago, but if you Tennessee idiots can talk about the 90's like they were yesterday then apparently this is relevant information. Spurrier winning 11 games three years in a row was one of the better coaching jobs in conference history
USC will be fine (and by fine, I mean win 8-9 games every now and then). It's laughable that you would even mention Spurrier hanging around too long
Edit: the 1-21 remark was just to give some perspective on the shape that program was in when SOS took over. I know Holtz elevated the culture a bit, but things were looking awfully bleak after the Clemson fight in '04.
USC will be fine (and by fine, I mean win 8-9 games every now and then). It's laughable that you would even mention Spurrier hanging around too long
Edit: the 1-21 remark was just to give some perspective on the shape that program was in when SOS took over. I know Holtz elevated the culture a bit, but things were looking awfully bleak after the Clemson fight in '04.
This post was edited on 2/9/16 at 12:47 am
Posted on 2/9/16 at 12:23 am to Dustin Johnson
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clearly
Clearly you Ole Miss fans struggle with reading comprehension.
Go back and take another stab at it there chief.
I'll wait...
Okay, let's try this again. The question is:
Did USCjr mortgage their future by sticking with Spurrier too long?
His last couple of years were awful and he struggled with recruiting.
No one is questioning the job he did at USC as a whole.
You're a moron.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 12:29 am to UTodd98
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Did USCjr mortgage the next 10 years of their program by sticking with Spurrier for a couple of years too long?
No
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How much damage has been done by subpar recruiting for much of his time there?
None. When you consider recruiting was still above where it was pre Spurrier.
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Was it worth an 11 win season, Citrus Bowl victory, an all time highlight, and a meaningless victory over Alabama?
Yes. Spurrier brought the program into relevancy. I'm pretty sure the Vo11s would love to have that meaningless victory over bama on their books.
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Did USCjr mortgage their future?
Simple question:
Simple answer: No this thread is bad and uninformed and you should feel bad.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 12:30 am to Dustin Johnson
LMFAO.
Nice edit you imbecile.
Touched mine up too.
Nice edit you imbecile.
Touched mine up too.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 12:32 am to UTodd98
From reading my response, any logical person could infer I was implying that Spurrier built that program. You're asking if they compromised 10 years because Spurrier decided to hang it up after starting '15 at a 2-4 mark? 10 years? They went to a bowl game in 2014 and you're hinting that Carolina football will be set back a decade because of Spurrier hanging around for too long.
You can't make this shite up
You can't make this shite up
Posted on 2/9/16 at 12:32 am to UTodd98
well he did evaluate and recruit well 3-4 years prior. he was winning. usually when you are winning recruiting becomes easier. everyone knew he was old, but I'm not sure if everyone expected the effects to happen as soon as they did. I think they expected to get a year or 2 more out of him (not term wise, but positive recruiting wise)
before he ever made the I got a couple more years in me statement his recruiting was slipping. I'm not sure if anyone else could have won like him. I'll say from arkansas's perspective that it was similar to petrino in a way. dude won alot of games for 2 years and then we was so devoid of talent the years after because of recruiting that I'm not sure it was worth it. yes all the winning is great, but I'm not sure any of that matters now. I don't think those big seasons matter now for SCAR either. it wasn't that long ago, but it might as well have been a decade ago to these kids.
before he ever made the I got a couple more years in me statement his recruiting was slipping. I'm not sure if anyone else could have won like him. I'll say from arkansas's perspective that it was similar to petrino in a way. dude won alot of games for 2 years and then we was so devoid of talent the years after because of recruiting that I'm not sure it was worth it. yes all the winning is great, but I'm not sure any of that matters now. I don't think those big seasons matter now for SCAR either. it wasn't that long ago, but it might as well have been a decade ago to these kids.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 12:34 am to Mr.Sinister
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None
Complete nonsense.
USC has middle of the road B1G type level talent on that roster right now.
We all know how middle of the road B1G schools would perform in the SEC.
You're delusional.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 12:35 am to UTodd98
I just reworded an auto-correct error. 
You're really insecure.
You're really insecure. Posted on 2/9/16 at 12:38 am to UTodd98
You're fricking delusional and any South Carolina fan will side with me on this one. You just asked if Steve Spurrier set South Carolina Football back a decade. My god. The dumbest shite I've seen on this board since I've joined the site.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 12:39 am to UTodd98
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Complete nonsense.
How so?
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USC has middle of the road B1G type level talent on that roster right now.
Relevancy pertaining to your original argument?
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You're delusional.
I don't think delusional means what you think it means
Posted on 2/9/16 at 12:40 am to Dustin Johnson
to add onto what I said earlier, it will probably take like 4-5 years to fix this at scar. when you don't recruit top 10 classes, you have to redshirt and develop to make yourself a powerful program and that takes time. unfortunately I don't believe muschamp will redshirt many as there isn't enough talent to keep the new guys coming in off the field.
it's going to look alot like Arkansas when bret took over, except bret is a better coach.
it's going to look alot like Arkansas when bret took over, except bret is a better coach.
This post was edited on 2/9/16 at 12:45 am
Posted on 2/9/16 at 12:40 am to Dustin Johnson
His struggles with recruiting the past 2 or 3 years have set the program back.
For how long? A decade? Maybe.
Maybe Muschamp makes the rebuild shorter.
You're an idiot if you think damage has not been done to that football program.
Isn't it past your bed time?
For how long? A decade? Maybe.
Maybe Muschamp makes the rebuild shorter.
You're an idiot if you think damage has not been done to that football program.
Isn't it past your bed time?
Posted on 2/9/16 at 12:42 am to Mr.Sinister
He should just go to bed.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 12:46 am to presidenthog
They need to stick with Muschamp when things get rocky.
He has a tough job ahead of him.
Luckily, most USCjr fans understand this.
Toothless rednecks from mehahepeh apparently do not.
He has a tough job ahead of him.
Luckily, most USCjr fans understand this.
Toothless rednecks from mehahepeh apparently do not.
This post was edited on 2/9/16 at 12:50 am
Posted on 2/9/16 at 12:49 am to UTodd98
I'll give muschamp this.
you cannot judge him for atleast 3 years. 3 years from now you will know if he is headed in the right direction. he has stepped into a really tough job and if he doesn't elevate himself as a head coach he will fail there. if he has learned from his past mistakes, we won't know for 3 years when his guys are the upper classmen
no offense to scar or muschamp, but he is going to lose alot over the next 2 years. it's that big of a rebuild. I just endured one. patience is key.
you cannot judge him for atleast 3 years. 3 years from now you will know if he is headed in the right direction. he has stepped into a really tough job and if he doesn't elevate himself as a head coach he will fail there. if he has learned from his past mistakes, we won't know for 3 years when his guys are the upper classmen
no offense to scar or muschamp, but he is going to lose alot over the next 2 years. it's that big of a rebuild. I just endured one. patience is key.
This post was edited on 2/9/16 at 12:50 am
Posted on 2/9/16 at 12:52 am to presidenthog
The talent disparity is pretty clear.
They need to get much faster as a team pretty quickly.
I think the brass understands this and know Muschamp can increase team speed quickly.
They need to get much faster as a team pretty quickly.
I think the brass understands this and know Muschamp can increase team speed quickly.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:09 am to UTodd98
OP is a moron. Spurrier built the program. There was nothing to mortgage pre-Spurrier. Post less.
How many good coaches would have been lining up to take the job if they ran the hall of fame coach who built their program off after a single bad season?
How many good coaches would have been lining up to take the job if they ran the hall of fame coach who built their program off after a single bad season?
This post was edited on 2/9/16 at 1:10 am
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:46 am to UTodd98
SOS is one of the all time greats. Cocks made the right call, just didn't go there way.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 3:19 am to Mr.Sinister
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Simple answer: No this thread is bad and uninformed and you should feel bad.
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