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re: The Death Penalty

Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:10 am to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:10 am to
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What if they do that before ya kill 'em? The threat is always there, the justice system does not allow for a quick process.



They're due for a fair trial. That's in their basic rights. Once they've been convicted, then their rights should be stripped away completely and we can have our way with them. I'm willing to sacrifice some people, including myself, in order to make sure we as a country retain our rights. That's how I defend the 30 people who were unfortunately killed. Him being convicted though, that blood is on all of our hands if he escapes.

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Economically it's cheaper to house them because giving them a lawyer and seven years of appeals (sometimes longer) can be pretty damn expensive.



Which is why I say take the Ted Bundys out back and shoot them immediately after they're convicted.

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Even El Chapo, the easiest way to keep him from escaping was shipping him to America.



Yeah, but to end his reign of terror, the simplest way is to kill him, just like Bin Laden.

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I can't get too deep into it because it's just a fundamental question: Am I willing, myself, to kill someone outside of emotional reasons (someone raped my mom and murdered her so out of rage and vengeance I killed them) for any crime?

My answer will be no. You could convince me economically (say, we sped up the process to those who pleaded guilty, or who were caught on camera with multiple witnesses), or even in an instance where it was necessity (we don't have enough food, someone's gotta go -- let it be the felon) -- but morally and/or philosophically I can't justify it.


Well this is what separates us and where we won't come to an understanding. I doubt I'd have any problem shooting Albert Fish in the face at point blank range, but that's just me. I could be wrong, but if you tell me a few monstrous acts he's responsible for, I'd think it'd be almost an obligation for me to put him out of his misery.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:14 am to
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Yeah, but to end his reign of terror, the simplest way is to kill him, just like Bin Laden.


Let me put it this way, and it may seem strangely paradoxical but: If we were to kill them in the act -- say -- as we caught them, I would be far more okay with that.

The moment we take them into custody, however, it becomes taboo. If in the wild (so to speak), I'm fine with putting a bullet in their head and saying they fought back in extreme cases.

But, with the qualifier: If you catch them, they no longer have the capacity to defend themselves and therefore you must treat them accordingly.
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