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Posted on 5/13/15 at 10:19 pm to
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/13/15 at 10:19 pm to
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Once the expectations are in place and students see administrators back them up the kids will adjust and your school year and the administrators school year would be better.


Would make for a much better school year at my school. I will definitely put into play your suggestions as best I can. The music I know I can do. The students already refuse to do the assignments I give them(writing lines of Thomas Jeffersons 10 rules) so getting them to do more when they know they wont get in trouble for refusing will be tough.
Posted by Bama323_15
Member since Jan 2013
2100 posts
Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:13 pm to
bamafan1001

When I was about to begin my administration career I was given some very good advice.

We all have good ideas about how to improve our current situation. However, one of the biggest causes of our own failure is our unwilling to understand the current culture and work within that framework.
(ETA: We tend to assume everyone will see and welcome the brilliance of our plans for improvement...but rarely in education does it work that way. We have to lead people to see the issue from our perspective and then offer our suggestions...sometimes.)
Know your culture.

If your admins don't want you to add days come at it from a different angle maybe:

1. ISS is a punishment...but would your school see more benefit if it was able to become a real deterrent?

2. Teachers in your school can write kids up for failing to meet certain expectations...why can you not do the same?

3. Come up with a list of basic common sense behavioral expectations for your ISS (Arrive on time, No sleeping, complete all teacher assignments, complete your assignments, etc.) And grade them on a +/- scale. I had 10 expectations.

Ask your admins if you can use the daily grading report as a way to quantifiably hold ISS students accountable.

If students fail to meet the standard agreed upon by the admins then that day does not count toward the completion of their assigned days.

Technically you are not adding days...but only counting days that are successful and show the student is ready to return to the classroom.


I did not add many days at all to students placement...I just refused to count any day that did not meet the school's expectations.


From an administrative standpoint, you may get more willingness by asking hesitant administrators what their goal is for ISS. Then lead them in the direction of allowing you to hold students accountable.

Good Luck


ETA: I was also able to use all of my "techniques" in a good nature fashion...not always. For example, students would laugh with me about the music I played...if a new student arrived and, after raising his hand, asked to listen to something else you could see the disgust and horror on others faces. They knew that I would say "Absolutely, what would you like to listen to?" And after getting the answer I would switch to something more difficult on the ears.

Students would go out of their way to speak to me in the hallways and proudly proclaim they were never coming back, or they would sometimes give me suggestions on new music to use to torture others.
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 8:28 pm
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