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re: I want God to be real.

Posted on 1/18/15 at 11:53 pm to
Posted by beejon
University Of Louisiana Warhawks
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Posted on 1/18/15 at 11:53 pm to
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"Our means of receiving impressions are absurdly few, and our notions of surrounding objects infinitely narrow. We see things only as we are constructed to see them, and can gain no idea of their absolute nature. With five feeble senses we pretend to comprehend the boundlessly complex cosmos." - Lovecraft


I'm not sure how that's related to the effect produced by the first uncaused cause.


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Under the assumption that the universe does not, in fact, collapse in on itself.

I once again refer to perception.



The universe may collapse on itself. That doesn't offer evidence for the Aristotelian view of an eternal universe though.


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Depends on what you're talking about. Life can come from nonlife in the correct conditions.

But, I can hit you with the same thing: If we exist, how can you prove there was ever a nonexistence?


The question is not about life coming from nonlife, the question is concerning can nothing produce something from nothing and that be a naturalistic view of creation. As far as I am aware, and correct me if I'm wrong...and give an example, but within the constraints of natural laws, nothing cannot produce something from nothing.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 1/18/15 at 11:57 pm to
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The question is not about life coming from nonlife, the question is concerning can nothing produce something from nothing and that be a naturalistic view of creation. As far as I am aware, and correct me if I'm wrong...and give an example, but within the constraints of natural laws, nothing cannot produce something from nothing.


This is the stupidest argument you have because you cannot know that.

You're positing that based on our limited knowledge of the universe.

Using human perception to dictate how the universe operates is woefully misguided.
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