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re: If we were to hire a new HC who would you like to see?

Posted on 10/9/14 at 11:54 am to
Posted by Foolish cock
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 11:54 am to
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No need, whip em out and lets discuss them.



OK, here goes.

Recruiting coordinator is a major problem. We seem to be directionless. To have not targeted and signed an impact defensive end during Clowney's 3 years with the program is absolutely inexcusable. Our plan for recruiting since Jr took over for Beamer seems to be , get dangerously thin and untalented at a position then recruit 10 players all in the same class to address it. Then use the tired arse excuse, we are young and inexperienced.
For us to continue to think that this staff can take chicken shite and make chicken soup is just arrogant and lazy. This has been perpetuated and enabled by the bigger sunshine pumpers in our fan base and definitely seems to permeate the head man and his son. JT Surrat, Darius English, Dylan Thompson, Will Sport, Mason Zandi, Kadetrix Marcus, Etc are maybe decent role/practice players and the fans and coaches are convinced that stars don't matter and that our coaches are smarter than every other staff in the SEC. Here's news guys , they fricking aren't. Sure occasionally there are two star studs and 4 star duds, but that is not the norm.

When your head guy works less than other head guys and hates recruiting, you damn well better have a recruiting coordinator who has a clear concise plan and who can/will pick up the slack on the trail, and we have the opposite. Before you tell me recruiting coordinators don't necessarily need to be great recruiters, I disagree, I think ours does because we are a different situation. Also when your entire desperately needed DE class does not qualify, someone (aside from the players) is not doing their homework.

I think our staff has some extremely lazy tendencies. For an example, why do we continue to run the zone read with a pocket passer?

Now to the Defense, it is an absolute abortion. We knew we would struggle though. The Deke hire was lazy and shitty, the Botkin hire was even lazier and shittier than the Deke hire. Is there one other program in America, that considers themselves a big boy programs that hires assistant coaches from high school? I can think of one, and as much shite as we give them about it, theirs has worked out a hell of a lot better than ours. Other SEC programs poach off our staff and we poach from high school , the ACC, and fricking Southern Miss... This was the season that Spurriers offense was going to need to carry the Defense, and Dylan just chokes in big situations. It is what it is. And I know, we should run the ball, but I try to avoid questioning play calling, that's what we love about Spurrier when he wins. Spurrier wants to throw the ball when he sees the defense vulnerable and over playing the run. I for one am ok with this. This is big time D1 football not pee wee, you should be able to take what the defense gives you. What most of the fan base is saying, but not in these words is , "run the football no matter what because our QB sucks so bad at crunch time he is sure to doom us." What in the actual frick? Why do we find ourselves with a QB that can't be trusted to throw? Think about that for a second. From the sample size this year, Dylan might be the biggest choke artist on earth. I am sorry, it's true.

That's my vent. Flame away...
This post was edited on 10/9/14 at 12:20 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
37785 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 4:10 pm to
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Recruiting coordinator is a major problem. We seem to be directionless. To have not targeted and signed an impact defensive end during Clowney's 3 years with the program is absolutely inexcusable. Our plan for recruiting since Jr took over for Beamer seems to be , get dangerously thin and untalented at a position then recruit 10 players all in the same class to address it. Then use the tired arse excuse, we are young and inexperienced.


We went after a ton of DEs ... think about it. One signed at Michigan, another went elsewhere I forget, was it Notre Dame? Another went to Ole Miss to play with his brother.

Big time DEs are hard to find. We've had others who failed to qualify. I mean come onnnnnn ...

I could not disagree with you more about our RC. It's just plain crazy what you typed and posted about that. lulz ... especially claiming Beamer was better.

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For us to continue to think that this staff can take chicken shite and make chicken soup is just arrogant and lazy. This has been perpetuated and enabled by the bigger sunshine pumpers in our fan base and definitely seems to permeate the head man and his son. JT Surrat, Darius English, Dylan Thompson, Will Sport, Mason Zandi, Kadetrix Marcus, Etc are maybe decent role/practice players and the fans and coaches are convinced that stars don't matter and that our coaches are smarter than every other staff in the SEC. Here's news guys , they fricking aren't. Sure occasionally there are two star studs and 4 star duds, but that is not the norm.


Ummmmm ... okay. So we're having a down year and suddenly Spurrier and Spurrier, Jr. are lazy, talent blind ... oh, and are supposed to sign Top Ten classes every year and having five, no wait, six players who are not living up to your expectations makes the entire staff suck.

Foolish Cock - slow down, take a deep breath, it's going to be ok.

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I think our staff has some extremely lazy tendencies. For an example, why do we continue to run the zone read with a pocket passer?


That's a very decent question based upon a very decent observation.

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Now to the Defense, it is an absolute abortion. We knew we would struggle though. The Deke hire was lazy and shitty, the Botkin hire was even lazier and shittier than the Deke hire. Is there one other program in America, that considers themselves a big boy programs that hires assistant coaches from high school? I can think of one, and as much shite as we give them about it, theirs has worked out a hell of a lot better than ours. Other SEC programs poach off our staff and we poach from high school , the ACC, and fricking Southern Miss...


Deke was one of the hotter DLine coaching prospects in the country, that was available, when Lawing unexpectedly bailed on us because he was unable to handle his personal problems in town with his girlfriends and ex-wives. It wasn't a lazy hire - it was considered a coup at the time and the jury is still-out honestly.

Botkin ... let's be fair. His resume is a bit stronger than what you are implying. LINK

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This was the season that Spurriers offense was going to need to carry the Defense, and Dylan just chokes in big situations. It is what it is. And I know, we should run the ball, but I try to avoid questioning play calling, that's what we love about Spurrier when he wins. Spurrier wants to throw the ball when he sees the defense vulnerable and over playing the run. I for one am ok with this. This is big time D1 football not pee wee, you should be able to take what the defense gives you. What most of the fan base is saying, but not in these words is , "run the football no matter what because our QB sucks so bad at crunch time he is sure to doom us." What in the actual frick? Why do we find ourselves with a QB that can't be trusted to throw? Think about that for a second. From the sample size this year, Dylan might be the biggest choke artist on earth. I am sorry, it's true.


It's not looking good for Thompson right now - he does appear to have some choking issues.

Since he's a Gamecock and his choking is leading to losses ... is he technically choking the chicken?
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