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Posted on 8/1/14 at 3:25 pm to cokebottleag
Posted on 8/1/14 at 3:25 pm to cokebottleag
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Nation building doesn't happen in ten years. It happens in 50. People forget that South Korea (and Japan) was economically indistinguishable from North Korea in 1960.
This is apples and landmines.
South Korea and Afghanistan are nothing alike whatsoever with completely different ideologies. We didn't help one side win a civil war and stay there forever. Unless Afghanistan and Iraq take different measures, they will likely keep having the same problems fifty years from now.
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On the Navy subject: In order to maintain a worldwide presence, secure naval bases are required. For secure naval bases overseas, secure, friendly nations are needed. For that, well, you see where I'm going with this.
There isn't a place in the world we can't launch quickly from -- and it came from countries with different environments than Iraq and Afghanistan.
These are not countries that can be won by injecting money into their systems. Do you have any idea what the average ISIS soldier makes a month?
That area is better left with brutal tactics rather than trying to win them over with candy.
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Posted on 8/4/14 at 9:46 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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South Korea and Afghanistan are nothing alike whatsoever with completely different ideologies. We didn't help one side win a civil war and stay there forever. Unless Afghanistan and Iraq take different measures, they will likely keep having the same problems fifty years from now.
I'm not saying they are alike in any respect other than they are both nations we went into and conducted 'nation building'. There are significant differences, but what I'm trying to say is that if you are going into ANY country to 'nation build', it isn't a 10 year thing. No country has ever been successfully occupied and built in less than 50 years. If you aren't steady for at least a full generation, it really isn't nation building at all, its just an invasion and retreat. What we did was go into a country willfully ignorant of what it has historically taken to build a stable ally from the ground up, and instead expected everything to be hunky-dory cause 'we're America and they'll love us.'
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