Started By
Message
re: SEC Playoff scenario
Posted on 7/5/14 at 11:52 am to sms151t
Posted on 7/5/14 at 11:52 am to sms151t
quote:
Perfect example was FSU last year, the ACC was awful but they won the BCSNCG. But I guess since they arent in SEC they are horrible.
And your logic, such as it is, fails completely here. Had FSU lost the ACC CG by a single point in overtime, you're arguing that they suddenly become a completely different team. I'm certain you're not arguing quantum mechanics here, so it's apparent that you honestly don't see the disconnect between your premise and the way reality actually works. The FSU team that won the BCSNCG was the best team in the country...not because they won a meaningless game against Duke and could therefore add "ACC CHAMPIONS!! frick YEAH!!!" to their record books, but because they, well, were the best team in the country.
Let's discuss causality. Winning a conference championship was evidence of their quality, but that doesn't mean their quality was predicated upon doing so. It's a fairly obvious fallacy, but a depressingly large number of people fall for it. By requiring a conference championship as a criterion, you're actually doing the exact opposite of working toward a better system. You're adding an additional, non-substantive challenge, which is the very definition weakening the process. If a team wins Conference X with 3 losses while another sees their undefeated record go away in a loss in the conference championship of Conference Y, your criterion is easy to apply. What if, on the other hand, you weren't told the nature of the respective conference championship games? Let's say they just gave you the schedule in random order and told you to pick the worthy play-off contender? Aghast, you say, "How can I pick unless I know who won their conference?!?" They reply, "I thought you were picking the best teams. How does the title alter their resume?" What's your reply? How, indeed, does winning one game -- that might not even be your toughest game -- have a greater actual effect on a team's resume than another given game?
Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:06 pm to randomways
Okay to answer question about winning conference Championships...You are the "best" team in a group of 8 to 12 teams.
Conference games are tougher to win as are rivalry games than an OOC game, as the teams know each other better than home and home etc
The system you are looking for is a playoff and best way to determine a entry to a playoff is each team to have the same criteria...and right now the best way is a conference championship. Which will take winning up 8 to 9 conference games with generally only 1 loss max. But if you want to look for a computer system, it is bias just as the humans programming the computer is.
The goal of this playoff is to crown a National Champion not determine who the best team, that is what you are not getting. Miami was the best team in 86 but did not win NC, and I can provide more examples. So you are wrong, IMO to think we are trying to find the best team.
Conference games are tougher to win as are rivalry games than an OOC game, as the teams know each other better than home and home etc
The system you are looking for is a playoff and best way to determine a entry to a playoff is each team to have the same criteria...and right now the best way is a conference championship. Which will take winning up 8 to 9 conference games with generally only 1 loss max. But if you want to look for a computer system, it is bias just as the humans programming the computer is.
The goal of this playoff is to crown a National Champion not determine who the best team, that is what you are not getting. Miami was the best team in 86 but did not win NC, and I can provide more examples. So you are wrong, IMO to think we are trying to find the best team.
This post was edited on 7/5/14 at 12:07 pm
Popular
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News