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re: Sensible arguments for gun control

Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:53 am to
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:53 am to
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t is? I used to live in southeastern DC and my roommate in Harlem. Never once felt like we needed a weapon. Different strokes for different folks, of course... I'm just trying to understand the NEED to be armed at all times. Did you grow up in a rural area? Currently, in BR, do you live in the area where the majority of violent crime takes place?

yes it is because I like to know i can defend myself. Thats good that y'all were naive and would rather depend on others. Nope, grew up in a neighborhood in Baton Rouge that was upper middle class. No, I live in a nice area where most of the violence isn't taking place but break ins are common in the good areas. In fact some mother fricker broke into my jeep about two weeks ago.

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1) I don't think there is any danger of a bill passing congress outlawing firearms. Most people are trying to regulate them to some modest degree, which seems entirely sensible.
2) I have seen police acting out videos, I don't think I've ever personally witnessed something like that. And for the record, if I did witness a police officer acting out or if I were the victim of a police officer acting out, the last thing I would want is to be in possession of a firearm w/ a mind to use it against him. You will absolutely only make matters worse.
I disagree with how far they will go in regulation. I don't believe in regulating just to do it.

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Well another name for a regulation is a law, and if you criminalize the possession of certain types of firearms then you can imprison those who possess them. Regulation may impact honest people, but that's part of the trade off living in a society as opposed to setting up camp on your own private island. The real question is is the trade off of limiting the purchase of certain types of weapons worth the restriction to "freedom" that a small segment of the population will feel when they can't legally purchase an assault rifle? I say yes.

I say no it is not, and that the rest of society is not safer. In fact I would say they are now less safe. why are they less safe? because now less law abiding citizens have weapons, therefore criminals know you are easy pickings. Some criminals are dumb but others are very aware and take advantage of an easy target and those not armed are the easiest targets.

I do think we need laws and regulations, I just believe we need minimal laws and regulations as well as those laws need to be very, very narrowly tailored laws.
Posted by WheelRoute
Washington, D.C.
Member since Oct 2013
1811 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:15 pm to
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yes it is because I like to know i can defend myself. Thats good that y'all were naive and would rather depend on others. Nope, grew up in a neighborhood in Baton Rouge that was upper middle class. No, I live in a nice area where most of the violence isn't taking place but break ins are common in the good areas. In fact some mother fricker broke into my jeep about two weeks ago.



So do you pack a parachute when you fly on an airplane? Will you not ride in cars that don't have airbags? Do you have someone taste your food at restaurants for you? I'm interested to know in what other facets of your life do you go to such extremes to protect yourself from imminent harm. Surely you wear a helmet while biking? And life vests at all times when on the water? You no doubt cab it home if you've had even a drop of alcohol...?

Who's really the naive one here? I can't speak for you, but for me to have that sort of bunker mentality would be highly detrimental to my quality of life. I may be robbed one day... it could happen. It's an extremely low probability, though, so I don't live my life like it will happen at any moment.

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I say no it is not, and that the rest of society is not safer. In fact I would say they are now less safe. why are they less safe? because now less law abiding citizens have weapons, therefore criminals know you are easy pickings. Some criminals are dumb but others are very aware and take advantage of an easy target and those not armed are the easiest targets.


This is just complete and utter nonsense.


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