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re: Games of Skill - "Casinos" Skyrocketing in Arkansas
Posted on 2/9/14 at 3:10 pm to WonderWartHawg
Posted on 2/9/14 at 3:10 pm to WonderWartHawg
my problem is personal.
A member of my family totaled out her credit cards in Mississippi, took her car title to attempt to win back her losses, then even more.
It took her family going to that Casino, dragging her butt out and letting the casino know that she is no longer allowed to enter. Then we placed her in a facility for Gamblers to get help. Which was partially paid for by the casinos revenue...
The social care system in our state is already a joke. Casinos encourage risks, risks from a moral prospective that the majority of people attending the establishment are no wealthy, established individuals. but in stead, those looking for a windfall from their usage.
Leaving the state coffers, social programs at a even bigger disadvantage to take care of the children, health care, etc because these ignorant, poor bastards are hooked on gambling.
Both from a moral, and social standpoint this is one of the stupidest forms of brainwashing I have ever seen. The PR firms behind the gambling establishment are very good at their jobs.
In TX, those corner mart selling the majority of the lottery tickets were in the poorest, uneducated neighborhoods. And we don't care? Why? Because it keeps their money in the state.. Unbelievable. Money they got from the state to begin with, from our tax base. Then we use more of that money to educate them on their addiction supplied by the same state providing their fix.
I counsel with folks in these situations all of the time. I know from first hand experience what it entails. And I have seen the men beaten to a pulp who couldn't pay their gambling debt, their families lose their homes, and their kids placed in foster care. Paid for by???? Taxation from gambling... OMG! The definition of stupidity!
A member of my family totaled out her credit cards in Mississippi, took her car title to attempt to win back her losses, then even more.
It took her family going to that Casino, dragging her butt out and letting the casino know that she is no longer allowed to enter. Then we placed her in a facility for Gamblers to get help. Which was partially paid for by the casinos revenue...
The social care system in our state is already a joke. Casinos encourage risks, risks from a moral prospective that the majority of people attending the establishment are no wealthy, established individuals. but in stead, those looking for a windfall from their usage.
Leaving the state coffers, social programs at a even bigger disadvantage to take care of the children, health care, etc because these ignorant, poor bastards are hooked on gambling.
Both from a moral, and social standpoint this is one of the stupidest forms of brainwashing I have ever seen. The PR firms behind the gambling establishment are very good at their jobs.
In TX, those corner mart selling the majority of the lottery tickets were in the poorest, uneducated neighborhoods. And we don't care? Why? Because it keeps their money in the state.. Unbelievable. Money they got from the state to begin with, from our tax base. Then we use more of that money to educate them on their addiction supplied by the same state providing their fix.
I counsel with folks in these situations all of the time. I know from first hand experience what it entails. And I have seen the men beaten to a pulp who couldn't pay their gambling debt, their families lose their homes, and their kids placed in foster care. Paid for by???? Taxation from gambling... OMG! The definition of stupidity!
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Posted on 2/9/14 at 3:30 pm to Razorback Reverend
Lotteries, Sales Taxes and Property Taxes are regressive taxes. Income Taxes are usually progressive.
It might be interesting to compare what states are doing better financially based on their systems of taxation.
It might be interesting to compare what states are doing better financially based on their systems of taxation.
Posted on 2/9/14 at 3:39 pm to Razorback Reverend
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ignorant, poor bastards are hooked on gambling
Who doesn't know the risk?
I have heard of people that drive from central Arkansas all the way to one of these border indian casino's. If people are gonna travel that far and want to gamble that bad, Arkansas might as well be where their money goes.
Posted on 2/9/14 at 4:00 pm to Razorback Reverend
When this individual isn't gambling, do they have other compulsions which replace the behavior, be it positive or negative? The reason I ask is this: Compulsion disorders aren't usually limited to just one particular behavior, so most times, eliminating one outlet for their "fix" only leads to another type of "fix".
For instance, I have an acquaintance that habitually takes pain medicine. He can stop the pain medicine if he starts drinking. He can stop his drinking if he starts spending all his money on something else like gambling and smoking, etc., etc. It's called cross addiction or compulsion.
Eliminating one outlet with a lot of these individuals only opens a new door for another compulsive behavior. It's a compulsive disorder and not necessarily limited to gambling.
Just curious.
For instance, I have an acquaintance that habitually takes pain medicine. He can stop the pain medicine if he starts drinking. He can stop his drinking if he starts spending all his money on something else like gambling and smoking, etc., etc. It's called cross addiction or compulsion.
Eliminating one outlet with a lot of these individuals only opens a new door for another compulsive behavior. It's a compulsive disorder and not necessarily limited to gambling.
Just curious.
Posted on 2/9/14 at 4:24 pm to Razorback Reverend
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my problem is personal.
You could have stopped right there.
The situation would be different if Arkansas wasn't adjacent to other casino states.
The OP shows that if given the choice, Arkansas gamblers are going to do their gambling in state. It would be just like if the entire state of Arkansas was dry. You'd see liquor stores lined up at the state line, you know, like they are in McDonald County, MO because Benton County was dry.
People like your family member are going to have compulsive problems in some area. Gambling establishments aren't the problem anymore than liquor stores cause alcoholism.
As for your comment about putting casinos next to the richest Arkansans...what is that about? What do Stephens or any of the other wealthy Arkansans have to do with casinos?
I wish you anti-casino guys would just say "I don't want casinos 'cause Jeebus sez no."
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