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Wait for the meltdown in the Playoff System.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 8:52 am
Posted on 1/8/14 at 8:52 am
I've been thinking and: What happens to the big five conferences as they stand?
ACC, Big X, Big XII, Pac-12, SEC.
If there are even two like records -- someone's getting left out on bad terms.
If the ACC and Big X produce undefeated teams and the other three are one losses across the board -- who gets left out and why?
ACC, Big X, Big XII, Pac-12, SEC.
If there are even two like records -- someone's getting left out on bad terms.
If the ACC and Big X produce undefeated teams and the other three are one losses across the board -- who gets left out and why?
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Posted on 1/8/14 at 10:18 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
This is why they need an RPI system.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 12:24 pm to roadGator
The BCS was fine...usually always had the two best teams matched up. The new format will have the 5th, 6th teams b*tching about being left out of course.
Better than the old days when the NC was crowned BEFORE the b9owl games and other than the Rose Bowl...there were no tie ins by conferences. I remember when a very undeserving BYU team won the NC back in the mid 1980s by playing a four or five loss Michigan team in the Holiday Bowl.
Better than the old days when the NC was crowned BEFORE the b9owl games and other than the Rose Bowl...there were no tie ins by conferences. I remember when a very undeserving BYU team won the NC back in the mid 1980s by playing a four or five loss Michigan team in the Holiday Bowl.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 12:45 pm to reel_gator8
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The BCS was fine...usually always had the two best teams matched up. The new format will have the 5th, 6th teams b*tching about being left out of course.
Better than the old days when the NC was crowned BEFORE the b9owl games and other than the Rose Bowl...there were no tie ins by conferences. I remember when a very undeserving BYU team won the NC back in the mid 1980s by playing a four or five loss Michigan team in the Holiday Bowl.
Bitching will continue no matter the number of teams in the playoff. 68 teams in the NCAA tourney.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 5:09 pm to reel_gator8
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The BCS was fine....
I was actually one of the few people to support it. For the most part it worked. Thankfully Boise didn't get a shot to waste all of our time, along with TCU. You get left out of the NCG? Schedule harder opponents. This new system is just going to show us how SEC teams can be left out.
The chances of four teams from the ACC, BIGs and PAC-12 going undefeated are much higher than the SEC. We're lucky that the SEC teams have had only one or no losses in the past few years when reppin' in the big game.
Posted on 1/17/14 at 11:12 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
quote:Also the possibility of corruption on the board...you have AD's from certain schools on the board. I guarantee next years playoffs will not have the Top 4 teams in the AP Poll
Wait for the meltdown in the Playoff System.
Posted on 1/18/14 at 2:38 am to AtlantaSportsGuy
I was ok with the BCS system...we almost always had the two best schools playing each other.. well except Bama-ND and ND was undefeated.
Its all about the money... $$$$$$$$ is the poll that colleges look at. ESPN would let their grandmothers get massacred on the field if the ratings were high enough.
Its all about the money... $$$$$$$$ is the poll that colleges look at. ESPN would let their grandmothers get massacred on the field if the ratings were high enough.
Posted on 1/19/14 at 1:45 pm to reel_gator8
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well except Bama-ND and ND was undefeated.
I just don't think the playoff will be complete unless we have 8 teams.
I also don't think that's possible without cutting two games off of the season. We can't ask these kids to play a potential 16 or 17 games a season when an injury can ruin their chances later.
So we're going to have to wait until a big school gets left out.
Imagine:
Stanford: 13 - 0
FSU: 13 - 0
Baylor: 12 - 1
SEC Champ: 11 - 2
Michigan State: 11 - 2
Notre Dame: 11 - 1
There are tons of potential nightmare scenarios.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 3:15 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
For me though their will ALWAYS be controversy between the last few spots. The NCAA tourney has controversy and they have 68 teams now.
My outlook is I would rather have controversy at the 4 and 5 spot than the 2 and 3 spot.
My outlook is I would rather have controversy at the 4 and 5 spot than the 2 and 3 spot.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:02 am to GatorReb
Someone will always get left out. Always. In every system.
But I think most years, what the BCS showed, is that there has always been at least one other team with a legit argument at being in the title game.
2004 it was Auburn. 2006 it was Michigan. 2008 it was Texas. 2011 it was Oklahoma State.
Very few years is it a true shitstorm where a lot of teams have an argument, 2007 being one of those years. 2012 was another where you had a lot of 1 loss teams, where KSU probably gets left out.
I think it will be a good system, or at least, slightly better than before. I agree we have too many games now though.
But I think most years, what the BCS showed, is that there has always been at least one other team with a legit argument at being in the title game.
2004 it was Auburn. 2006 it was Michigan. 2008 it was Texas. 2011 it was Oklahoma State.
Very few years is it a true shitstorm where a lot of teams have an argument, 2007 being one of those years. 2012 was another where you had a lot of 1 loss teams, where KSU probably gets left out.
I think it will be a good system, or at least, slightly better than before. I agree we have too many games now though.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 3:37 pm to slayerxing
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Someone will always get left out.
This is true, but this will be one of the first times where -multiple- teams with viable shots are going to be left out to dry simply because of arbitrary measures. Alabama in their rematch with LSU was clearly the best team around.
If this was 1, 2, 3 and 4 respectively, I think I might be more inclined to go with it. But if this is going to be: Top team out of ND, SEC, ACC, PAC, BIGs, then I think it's going to be an absolute disaster.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 5:11 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I might be mistaken, but I thought the top 4 teams were going to be selected, regardless of conference, based on overall profile (ie. wins, losses, SOS, opponent SOS, etc.)
Posted on 1/20/14 at 8:34 pm to slayerxing
Unlike the BCS, which uses a formula based on a combination of computer rankings and human polls to select teams, selection committee members for the new playoff will have flexibility to examine whatever data they believe is relevant to inform their decisions. Among the many factors the committee will consider are win-loss record, strength of schedule, head-to-head results, and conference championships won.
I heard that the latter will be a more deciding factor than anything else. I also highly doubt a team like (let's just go for an SEC team) Florida who doesn't win their conference championship, will jump a team from any of the other four conferences if they win their conference. If it's not 1, 2, 3, 4 (possibly 5) it won't do anything other than make it an even more idiotic ''iteration'' than anything else implemented so far.
I heard that the latter will be a more deciding factor than anything else. I also highly doubt a team like (let's just go for an SEC team) Florida who doesn't win their conference championship, will jump a team from any of the other four conferences if they win their conference. If it's not 1, 2, 3, 4 (possibly 5) it won't do anything other than make it an even more idiotic ''iteration'' than anything else implemented so far.
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