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Coach Ward vs "Coach" Venables
Posted on 11/27/13 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 11/27/13 at 10:33 pm
celmson DC Venables is one of the most overpaid, overhyped, worthless DC's in all of the NCAA. He rode Coach Stoops coattails for years at OU. Ward has been our DC since '09, Venables has been TaterU's since '12, and he was at OU before that. Let's talk stats about how they've done as DC's the past 4 years:
2013 Rankings USC-Ward
18th Total Defense
32nd Rushing Defense
17th Passing Defense
20th Scoring Defense
2013 Rankings Taters-Venables
27th Total Defense
53rd Rushing Defense
16th Passing Defense
18th Scoring Defense
2012 Rankings USC-Ward
11th Total Defense
17th Rushing Defense
21st Passing Defense
13th Scoring Defense
2012 Rankings Taters-Venables
63rd Total Defense
57th Rushing Defense
71st Passing Defense
48th Scoring Defense
2011 Rankings USC-Ward (Ellis here as well)
3rd Total Defense
45 Rushing Defense
2 Passing Defense
11 Scoring Defense
2011 Rankings Sooners-Venables
55th Total Defense
43rd Rushing Defense
79th Passing Defense
31 Scoring Defense
2010 Rankings USC-Ward (Ellis here as well)
46th Total Defense
12th Rushing Defense
97th Passing Defense
43rd Scoring Defense
2010 Rankings Sooners-Venables
53rd Total Defense
58th Rushing Defense
51st Passing Defense
33rd Scoring Defense
So after the past 4 seasons, the AVG rankings for each DC are:
Lorenzo Ward
19.5 Total Defense
26.5 Rushing Defense
34.25 Passing Defense
21.75 Scoring Defense
Coattails Venables
49.5 Total Defense
52.75 Rushing Defense
54.25 Passing Defense
32.5 Scoring Defense
Lorenzo Ward has outperformed Coach V BY A LOT. Ward is a Top 20 DC in the NCAA, Coach V just cracked the Top 50 statistically, however, this chode gets paid as a Top5. I'm not hating him, way to stick it to the Tater checkbook.
Taters are the best about ignoring the numbers and facts, they'll tell you about Stoops glory years at Oklahoma in the early/mid 2000's, but what they won't tell you was that is when Mike Stoops was there running things on the Defense.
2013 Rankings USC-Ward
18th Total Defense
32nd Rushing Defense
17th Passing Defense
20th Scoring Defense
2013 Rankings Taters-Venables
27th Total Defense
53rd Rushing Defense
16th Passing Defense
18th Scoring Defense
2012 Rankings USC-Ward
11th Total Defense
17th Rushing Defense
21st Passing Defense
13th Scoring Defense
2012 Rankings Taters-Venables
63rd Total Defense
57th Rushing Defense
71st Passing Defense
48th Scoring Defense
2011 Rankings USC-Ward (Ellis here as well)
3rd Total Defense
45 Rushing Defense
2 Passing Defense
11 Scoring Defense
2011 Rankings Sooners-Venables
55th Total Defense
43rd Rushing Defense
79th Passing Defense
31 Scoring Defense
2010 Rankings USC-Ward (Ellis here as well)
46th Total Defense
12th Rushing Defense
97th Passing Defense
43rd Scoring Defense
2010 Rankings Sooners-Venables
53rd Total Defense
58th Rushing Defense
51st Passing Defense
33rd Scoring Defense
So after the past 4 seasons, the AVG rankings for each DC are:
Lorenzo Ward
19.5 Total Defense
26.5 Rushing Defense
34.25 Passing Defense
21.75 Scoring Defense
Coattails Venables
49.5 Total Defense
52.75 Rushing Defense
54.25 Passing Defense
32.5 Scoring Defense
Lorenzo Ward has outperformed Coach V BY A LOT. Ward is a Top 20 DC in the NCAA, Coach V just cracked the Top 50 statistically, however, this chode gets paid as a Top5. I'm not hating him, way to stick it to the Tater checkbook.
Taters are the best about ignoring the numbers and facts, they'll tell you about Stoops glory years at Oklahoma in the early/mid 2000's, but what they won't tell you was that is when Mike Stoops was there running things on the Defense.
Posted on 11/27/13 at 11:11 pm to CockInYourEar
While Ward was technically the DC, Ellis Johnson ran the defense until 2012.
But I agree with the premise that Ward>>>>>>>>>>>Venables
Ward has done some good things with the youth he had this year after about the first month of the season. Hopefully they continue
But I agree with the premise that Ward>>>>>>>>>>>Venables
Ward has done some good things with the youth he had this year after about the first month of the season. Hopefully they continue
Posted on 12/1/13 at 1:03 am to Cockopotamus
Here's what an overpaid, overhyped DC sounds like after his defense gets taken behind the wood shed.
Basically he said, they blocked us and we couldn't get by them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4oLacIeBso
Basically he said, they blocked us and we couldn't get by them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4oLacIeBso
Posted on 12/1/13 at 1:31 am to CockInYourEar
Someone needs to introduce him to the concept of the QB draw
eta- "what are they doing on those QB draws?"
"Blocking us! I don't understand. What do you mean?"
holy shite. that was gold
eta- "what are they doing on those QB draws?"
"Blocking us! I don't understand. What do you mean?"
This post was edited on 12/1/13 at 1:33 am
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