re: Stupid Big Twelvers....KSU

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but in my experience, most military towns are shitholes.

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Out of my 8 PCS moves, only two have been in what you call "shitty military towns". Just using Army bases:

Fort Carson - Colorado Springs is AWESOME

Fort Lewis - Seattle is great...the people, not so much

Fort Bragg - Fayetteville is a dump. However, Raleigh is nice

Fort Drum - No thanks, I want nothing to do with upstate NY when the only nearby city is Syracuse

Fort Stewart - Savannah is ok, but not great

Fort Gordon - Augusta sucks. Fortunately, Columbia is just an hour away.

Fort Benning - Dump. Nearest real city is Auburn, AL

Fort Rucker - Never been there, but it's BFE Alabama

Fort Riley - Manhattan is actually not that bad. No nearby big cities

Fort Leavenworth - Kansas City is odd

Fort Campbell - Covington isn't great, but Nashville is very close

Fort Irwin - DO NOT WANT

Fort Polk - REALLY DO NOT WANT

Fort Bliss - El Paso, NM is crap

Fort Hood - Probably the worst place to put a base in Texas

Fort Sam Houston - San Antonio

Fort Sill - Middle of nowhere in Mobilehoma.