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re: Regarding my argument about Ole Miss not being able to compete because..

Posted on 2/11/11 at 11:23 am to
Posted by OPR
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 11:23 am to
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All I hear is how we got dominated by Ole Miss in recruiting, but now we all know, its just not true!


Hey bruh. The facts are that our recruiting class this year was more highly rated than yours. Period. It doesn't mean we will be better than you next season. It doesn't mean we will beat you next season. It doesn't mean we will win X number of more games next season. It doesn't mean we are "on the rise". It doesn't mean our coach is better than yours. It doesn't mean ANYTHING at all OTHER than the fact that the average rankings of the athletes who signed LOI's with us is higher than that of your recruits. Period. End of story. It's a subjective and highly inaccurate business. For instance, had we recruited by stars only, we might have landed many 4 and 5 star players, but in the wrong positions. So next season, we'd have 10 WR's and 10 DB's who are all highly rated, but that's not going to help win games, do you understand? No one (no sane person anyway) thinks that recruiting "titles" in one year translate DIRECTLY into wins the following year. If you don't want OM fans talking shite about recruiting, pressure your staff to do a better job.

With those facts in hand, you got dominated in recruiting this year. Period. Will it transfer to W's on the field over the next 4 years? We'll have to wait and see.

When replying to this post, try to keep it to recruiting this season only. TIA.
Posted by MedDawg
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 12:06 pm to
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Hey bruh. The facts are that our recruiting class this year was more highly rated than yours. Period. It doesn't mean we will be better than you next season. It doesn't mean we will beat you next season. It doesn't mean we will win X number of more games next season. It doesn't mean we are "on the rise". It doesn't mean our coach is better than yours. It doesn't mean ANYTHING at all OTHER than the fact that the average rankings of the athletes who signed LOI's with us is higher than that of your recruits. Period. End of story. It's a subjective and highly inaccurate business. For instance, had we recruited by stars only, we might have landed many 4 and 5 star players, but in the wrong positions. So next season, we'd have 10 WR's and 10 DB's who are all highly rated, but that's not going to help win games, do you understand? No one (no sane person anyway) thinks that recruiting "titles" in one year translate DIRECTLY into wins the following year. If you don't want OM fans talking shite about recruiting, pressure your staff to do a better job.


You were making great points until the last sentence. Your last sentence pretty much contradicts the rest of your statement.

The following is not a comment on Nutt or OM.

Our coach may already be doing a better job--you can't just go by rankings, as "it's a subjective and highly inaccurate business".

You have to go by results, which come from raw talent but also player development, teaching, and on-the-field coaching. Some 3-star recruits develop into 4-star players by doing nothing more than gaining muscle/weight and keeping (or improving) their HS speed. Others improve by coaching techniques or being used on the field in the most optimum way.

A very common quote among our current recruits is "I'm coming to Starkville to work hard". Not "I had a great time while visiting". Maybe, just maybe, Mullen is going after the highest rated players he can of whom he is positive will work their hardest. And telling recruits that they will work their butts off doesn't put off hard working recruits.

Similarly, I do know that Saban works the tails off recruits in his camps, and he won't pursue those that can't hack a tough camp. Saban gets highly rated AND hard working players, and he wins National Championships.

Right now, the highest-rated hard working players Mullen can get are mostly 3-stars. I'll take a hard-working 3-star over a more talented but less hard working 4- or 5-star any day. If Mullen continues to win, then he'll be able to attract some hard working AND higher rated players. And we will continue to rise.
This post was edited on 2/11/11 at 12:14 pm
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