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re: Regarding my argument about Ole Miss not being able to compete because..
Posted on 2/11/11 at 10:52 am to TheSecWEST
Posted on 2/11/11 at 10:52 am to TheSecWEST
My notes:
Cordell Giles, 10, OLB, *** (Who?)
Cedric Smith, 10, CB, ** (Who? Mind you, our secondary sucked, so if this guy couldn't see time on the field in that secondary, then he probably sucked even harder.)
Martez Eastland, 10, FB, *** (Fat, slow)
Tony Grimes, 10, CB, *** (Legitimate loss here. Real talent. But the guy wasn't making his grades so what were we supposed to do?)
Quadarias Mireles, 10, WR, *** (He never made it to campus, so it really doesn't count as attrition. Guy was really talented but never got his shite together to qualify.)
Terrance Hackney, 10, OT, *** (Fat, slow, lots of upside that was never really realized.)
Eric Mitchell, 10, CB, *** (Who?)
Mike Thomas, 10, DE, *** (Who?)
So, out of the guys who actually made it to campus (the only people who can be impacted by attrition, per the definition), only one of them saw any real playing time (special teams doesn't count) and was likely to see any this upcoming year.
It doesn't chap my arse when 2nd and 3rd stringers can't hack it. It does when starters do, but that's normal.
Cordell Giles, 10, OLB, *** (Who?)
Cedric Smith, 10, CB, ** (Who? Mind you, our secondary sucked, so if this guy couldn't see time on the field in that secondary, then he probably sucked even harder.)
Martez Eastland, 10, FB, *** (Fat, slow)
Tony Grimes, 10, CB, *** (Legitimate loss here. Real talent. But the guy wasn't making his grades so what were we supposed to do?)
Quadarias Mireles, 10, WR, *** (He never made it to campus, so it really doesn't count as attrition. Guy was really talented but never got his shite together to qualify.)
Terrance Hackney, 10, OT, *** (Fat, slow, lots of upside that was never really realized.)
Eric Mitchell, 10, CB, *** (Who?)
Mike Thomas, 10, DE, *** (Who?)
So, out of the guys who actually made it to campus (the only people who can be impacted by attrition, per the definition), only one of them saw any real playing time (special teams doesn't count) and was likely to see any this upcoming year.
It doesn't chap my arse when 2nd and 3rd stringers can't hack it. It does when starters do, but that's normal.
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 11:24 am to DCRebel
Saban at Bama has been successful culling less productive players from his team. And in some ways Nutt is doing the same thing--not all of OM's losses are guys that don't make it to campus.
On one hand, culling players allows a team to sign more on signing day, thereby increasing the chances of finding that "diamond in the rough".
But there is something to be said about giving players more time to develop. We all know of players that didn't seem to mentally "get it" or physically mature until their junior or senior years.
Patrick Willis, Mike Wallace, and even Eli Manning. State had a walkon that finally worked his way to a starting LB position by his senior year. If Mullen had cut him after his sophomore year, then we would have been starting a less productive player in his place. Another good example is Relf--many schools would have cut him by his sophomore year, but now he's going to be in the top half of SEC QB's.
State's low attrition seems almost unusual among SEC schools (but more common outside the SEC). It should result in better APR's and graduation rates. Mullen can sell the low attrition as a positive to recruits---much less chance of getting cut and more chance of graduating.
We will just have see if it works or not.
On one hand, culling players allows a team to sign more on signing day, thereby increasing the chances of finding that "diamond in the rough".
But there is something to be said about giving players more time to develop. We all know of players that didn't seem to mentally "get it" or physically mature until their junior or senior years.
Patrick Willis, Mike Wallace, and even Eli Manning. State had a walkon that finally worked his way to a starting LB position by his senior year. If Mullen had cut him after his sophomore year, then we would have been starting a less productive player in his place. Another good example is Relf--many schools would have cut him by his sophomore year, but now he's going to be in the top half of SEC QB's.
State's low attrition seems almost unusual among SEC schools (but more common outside the SEC). It should result in better APR's and graduation rates. Mullen can sell the low attrition as a positive to recruits---much less chance of getting cut and more chance of graduating.
We will just have see if it works or not.
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