re: Where my Bama Boys at?

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You can be laser-focused and execute to the best of abilities on everything from dorm room discipline to nutrition, while, at the same time, benefit from a few "shrewd bent rules" or ulterior advantages *outside the program* to get recruiting results within a new-ish venue

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Absolutely. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. Yet I can still provide ample evidence that he focuses significantly more attention on (legal) recruiting than his peers, so it’s logical that he has success there relative to his rivals. Also, I know the program is rolling now but look how he’s still killing it under NIL despite the fact that players usually will have multiple 4 and 5 stars ahead of them on the depth chart. NIL should have taken away his advantage, if what you are saying is true.

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Those aren't benefits Saban himself may have directed

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Ok, but previously you were saying he was personally blackmailing people and shite so I’m not really sure what you’re claiming now in terms of Saban’s involvement in cheating schemes.

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There's just enough smoke from 2007-2012

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I think it’s fine to look at circumstantial evidence in this informal discussion. But it’s still circumstantial, and I’d be shocked that something more concrete hasn’t come out (from a disgruntled former player perhaps) if the sophisticated, Saban/program-managed cheating scheme was in place that you’re suggesting.