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re: Where my Bama Boys at?
Posted on 9/6/22 at 2:19 pm to thatthang
Posted on 9/6/22 at 2:19 pm to thatthang
You can be laser-focused and execute to the best of abilities on everything from dorm room discipline to nutrition, while, at the same time, benefit from a few "shrewd bent rules" or ulterior advantages *outside the program* to get recruiting results within a new-ish venue.
Those aren't benefits Saban himself may have directed, but that others involved in the program helped jump-start recruiting success in Tuscaloosa a bit faster than what other coaches might have been challenged with at the time. And yes, rivals have been doing it all along. No, it's not SMU, but it's also not above-board.
There's just enough smoke from 2007-2012 that I can't forget and won't give grace for how UA's success rapidly jump started:
-Trent Richardson
-Tom Albetar
-Baron Flenory
-Charles Robinson's smoke (who ended up writing virtually nothing)
-Children's First Foundation, McGregor, Namath, Drummond
-Saban's 2009-2012 classes overcommitted on the scholarship cap while keeping 12-14 around the locker room on medical greyshirts
Those aren't benefits Saban himself may have directed, but that others involved in the program helped jump-start recruiting success in Tuscaloosa a bit faster than what other coaches might have been challenged with at the time. And yes, rivals have been doing it all along. No, it's not SMU, but it's also not above-board.
There's just enough smoke from 2007-2012 that I can't forget and won't give grace for how UA's success rapidly jump started:
-Trent Richardson
-Tom Albetar
-Baron Flenory
-Charles Robinson's smoke (who ended up writing virtually nothing)
-Children's First Foundation, McGregor, Namath, Drummond
-Saban's 2009-2012 classes overcommitted on the scholarship cap while keeping 12-14 around the locker room on medical greyshirts
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Posted on 9/6/22 at 2:34 pm to Gravy_Train
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You can be laser-focused and execute to the best of abilities on everything from dorm room discipline to nutrition, while, at the same time, benefit from a few "shrewd bent rules" or ulterior advantages *outside the program* to get recruiting results within a new-ish venue
Absolutely. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. Yet I can still provide ample evidence that he focuses significantly more attention on (legal) recruiting than his peers, so it’s logical that he has success there relative to his rivals. Also, I know the program is rolling now but look how he’s still killing it under NIL despite the fact that players usually will have multiple 4 and 5 stars ahead of them on the depth chart. NIL should have taken away his advantage, if what you are saying is true.
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Those aren't benefits Saban himself may have directed
Ok, but previously you were saying he was personally blackmailing people and shite so I’m not really sure what you’re claiming now in terms of Saban’s involvement in cheating schemes.
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There's just enough smoke from 2007-2012
I think it’s fine to look at circumstantial evidence in this informal discussion. But it’s still circumstantial, and I’d be shocked that something more concrete hasn’t come out (from a disgruntled former player perhaps) if the sophisticated, Saban/program-managed cheating scheme was in place that you’re suggesting.
Posted on 9/6/22 at 2:58 pm to Gravy_Train
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-Tom Albetar
So why did Alabama disassociate itself from Albatar if they were working together?
All you have done is put together a list of bullshite you've seen on the internet without delving any deeper into what actually happened. Just like you completely ignoring Alabama self-reporting the textbook scandal and literally causing themselves to lose football games as a result. It's not that you're stupid...you're just lazy.
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