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Forward progress wasn't stopped IMO.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:46 pm
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:46 pm
I'm not gonna link the play, most have us have surely seen it.
But watch it at full speed.
If you think his progress was stopped then well over half of the running plays we see in every game where a player gets held up and then breaks free should ruled dead.
He wasn't down and he reached his arm across the goal line within less than a second of landing on the Purdue player.
I'm a huge defensive fan, but that was a TD.
If you want to argue he was assisted, that's another debate and should have involved a flag.
But either way the assisting didn't get him in the endzone, him reaching the ball out did.
UT got screwed, not only on that play but on several others.
But watch it at full speed.
If you think his progress was stopped then well over half of the running plays we see in every game where a player gets held up and then breaks free should ruled dead.
He wasn't down and he reached his arm across the goal line within less than a second of landing on the Purdue player.
I'm a huge defensive fan, but that was a TD.
If you want to argue he was assisted, that's another debate and should have involved a flag.
But either way the assisting didn't get him in the endzone, him reaching the ball out did.
UT got screwed, not only on that play but on several others.
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 10:47 pm
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:46 pm to NATidefan
This needed another thread
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:48 pm to DarbonneTiger18
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This needed another thread
I'm sorry, you got something better to discuss tonight on here, by all means, go for it.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:48 pm to NATidefan
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Forward progress wasn't stopped IMO.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:49 pm to NATidefan
call didnt cut the mustard
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:49 pm to NATidefan
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:49 pm to Tuscaloosa
Your clip is in slowmo and ends short.
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 10:51 pm
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:49 pm to DarbonneTiger18
quote:But his forward progress wasn’t stopped.
This needed another thread
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:50 pm to 3down10
Then a flag should have been thrown
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:52 pm to NATidefan
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Your clip is in slow mow and ends short.
My clip ends when the ball stops moving forward and even begins moving backwards. Anything that happens after that point is largely irrelevant, which is likely why UT wasn’t flagged for assisting the runner. That is illegal in American football and should be met with anger by football fans who don’t appreciate UT’s blatant attempt at cheating.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:54 pm to Wolfhound45
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But his forward progress wasn’t stopped.
He had 2 defenders on him, and his own guy was trying to pull him into the endzone, which is against the rules.
I thought Tennessee got screwed at first, but after seeing the guy pulling him in etc, it's obvious it was the correct call.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:54 pm to Tuscaloosa
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My clip ends when the ball stops moving forward and even begins moving backwards. Anything that happens after that point is largely irrelevant
Really, let me go find a clip where a Bama player gets hung up and then breaks out and then goes for another 15 yards.
It happens all the time.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:56 pm to Tuscaloosa
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That is illegal in American football and should be met with anger by football fans who don’t appreciate UT’s blatant attempt at cheating.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:56 pm to NATidefan
Rules are rules. Per the rulebook, the ball is dead when forward progress is in question. Whether or not that’s fair or feels good doesn’t matter.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:58 pm to NATidefan
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Then a flag should have been thrown
What difference does that make?
It was confirmed by the replay booth.
Sorry, but calling a guy who's being pulled by his own players is not forward progress regardless of a flag.
That's the rules, they got it right.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 11:01 pm to 3down10
It could even be argued that it’s the fault of the UT puller. That certainly would have been where forward progress came into question, which by definition, causes the play to be ruled dead.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 11:01 pm to NATidefan
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Really, let me go find a clip where a Bama player gets hung up and then breaks out and then goes for another 15 yards.
It happens all the time.
Where another player is trying to pull him forward while he is almost on the ground?
I'd like to see that clip.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 11:07 pm to 3down10
1. Being almost on the ground means nothing, you are either down or you are not. You can crawl across ten guys to the endzone as long as you don't go down by the rules.
2. Him being pulled means nothing in regards to his forward progress, which is what they ruled was stopped.
Obviously if his being pulled got him in the endzone then he was still progressing forward and a flag should have been thrown for it.
2. Him being pulled means nothing in regards to his forward progress, which is what they ruled was stopped.
Obviously if his being pulled got him in the endzone then he was still progressing forward and a flag should have been thrown for it.
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 12/30/21 at 11:09 pm to 3down10
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what difference does that make?
Alot, if the penalty results in them getting a repeat of the down.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 11:09 pm to NATidefan
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1. Being almost on the ground means nothing, you are either down or you are not. You can crawl across ten guys to the endzone as long as you don't touch.
It means a lot when talking about forward progress. If he was crawling across ten guys, he's making forward progress.
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2. Him being pulled means nothing in regards to his forward progress, which is what they ruled was stopped.
It's the entire reason the rule exists, but you think it means nothing?
If he was making forward progress, he wouldn't have been able to pull on the guy for multiple seconds. Again, that is the reason for the rule, he is interfering with actual forward progress.
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