I've come around to the idea that Yurachek did, in fact, pull Kiffin's offer. You gotta think about it from Yurachek's perspective. This was the second time Yurachek tried to take a chance on Kiffin while other programs intimated he was too risky. Yurachek tried to show Kiffin he believed in him. Yurachek apparently also made it clear early on in their negotiations that he wasn't going to play Sexton's games trying to milk more money out of our athletics department. Then he likes that tweet telling Kiffin he was going to move on. Then he did move on.

Note that Pittman's first message to his new team dealt with "loyalty." Yurachek rightfully saw this second time around that Kiffin doesn't believe in being loyal to anyone. Not this program or the man who went to bat for him twice while others wouldn't. Kiffin was too much risk.

It was a good call by Yurachek.

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Posted by troyt37

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Posted on 12/11/19 at 2:43 pm to BoarEd

We could probably reconstruct the timeline of all of that, and make some pretty educated guesses about what was happening, but honestly I don't care enough to make that much effort. I had made myself okay with the Kiffin hire, but when it didn't happen I was relieved, because I think we dodged a bullet. He may win a NC at Ole Miss, but that doesn't reflect on what he would have done here one bit.

I think Ole Miss has made it pretty clear that they are willing to do whatever it takes to get them back to the kind of success they were having with Freeze. To me, that is an obvious sign that the NCAA didn't come down hard enough on them for the cheating they were doing. My bet is they get nasty if there is a next time.

I for one am glad that we haven't reached the point of tying our self worth to the fortunes of the football team. I want success there as much as anything, but I'm not about selling my soul for fleeting victories.

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Posted by boogiewoogie1978

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Posted on 12/12/19 at 8:15 am to troyt37

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So if you've managed to cripple your program through incompetence at the administration and coaching levels, you throw caution to the wind and find the most ruthless, win at all costs guy to run your program, or you're scared.

The incompetence is already there in the administration. See HY.

We know Kiffin can recruit and win games. If he decided to leave after 3 years we would be in a much better place then we are now. A better situation for the next coach.

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you throw caution to the wind and find the most ruthless, win at all costs guy to run your program, or you're scared.

You are correct. I thought you 'uncommon" people were all gone. I guess not.

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Posted by boogiewoogie1978

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Posted on 12/12/19 at 8:18 am to BoarEd

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I've come around to the idea that Yurachek did, in fact, pull Kiffin's offer.

I read Sexton said Ole Miss had a better offer then HY called his bluff.
Sexton basically said okay you got me. LK still wants to come to AR and HY said no thanks.

HY probably should have swallowed his pride but we will see.

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Posted by troyt37

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Posted on 12/12/19 at 9:01 am to boogiewoogie1978

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The incompetence is already there in the administration. See HY.

HY may well be incompetent, but if so, it hasn't shown yet. I'm pretty happy with his basketball hire so far. It appears what you are seeing as incompetence, I am seeing as having standards and principles.

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We know Kiffin can recruit and win games. If he decided to leave after 3 years we would be in a much better place then we are now. A better situation for the next coach.

I don't think the issue is what we know about Kiffin, it's what we don't really know that's the problem. If HY stuck his neck out for Kiffin due to resistance because of character issues, only to have Kiffin slit his throat by climbing in bed with Ole Miss after an agreement had been signed, then nothing HY did involves incompetence.

We don't know what kind of money HY was throwing around, and whether some of the terms seen in Pittman's contract caused some potential hires to back off. We do know that some of those terms are much more sane, and beneficial to the program, especially if the new hire turns out to be arse, like Morris was.

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You are correct. I thought you 'uncommon" people were all gone. I guess not.

Nor will we ever be. The problem with getting down in the gutter is it makes you the same disgusting trash as the rest of the programs which disregard the rules to win at all costs. The difference being, the NCAA will pluck the Florida States, Alabamas, North Carolinas, Auburns, and Oklahomas out of that gutter before they go down the drain. We both know that isn't so for Arkansas.

On a positive note, you have plenty of disgusting trash programs to choose from.