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re: Would you be happy with 11-3?

Posted on 6/13/17 at 7:23 pm to
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 7:23 pm to
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I don't know why people continue with this narrative


Its peter and jefferson. Such lack of rationale should be expected at this point.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 7:46 pm to
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Go ahead and tell us why we would be in a better place today by keeping Richt after 2015.

Me never say we better with Richt now. Me say Kirbs hired to win SEC and make playoff. Me say this expectation now post-Richt. Every year.

But, tarzan sswing in on vine. Hit big tree with face. As usual.

Idiot
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 7:56 pm to
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Me say this expectation now post-Richt. Every year.


Nope. Only in the mind of an idiot. Smart folks know the roster was depleted thanks to Richt, and it takes time to fix that. We fired Richt to improve upon where we were from 2013-15 and where we were going in 2016 and 2017 with him, but of course you think the bar is set at 2007.

BTW, did you ever watch Legend of Tarzan from 2016? Damn good movie, and I am proud to be the rants Tarzan.
This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 8:10 pm
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
3027 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 8:02 pm to
A lot of young folks think they have it all figured out. Unfortunately, most have no chance of realizing that mistake until their world turns very ugly. I'm glad I don't have any kids to leave behind with this mess.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 8:05 pm to
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A lot of young folks think they have it all figured out.


I know. Did you see the latest greatest from Jefferson when he puts his tin foil hat on in the Charleston thread?
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14179 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 8:13 pm to
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shitting on a 2007 asterisks.


I did not shite on 2007. I just noted we didn't make it to the SEC championship game because we lost to an Average TN team and a shitty SC team....when we had more talent than both. It was a very Richtian season.
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
5374 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:02 pm to
Yea 2007 was pretty much the epitome of a lot of people's complaints. A team that couldn't win the games it clearly should have which would've put it in the NC.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:49 pm to
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I don't know why people continue with this narrative. A dip in productivity was to be expected. That's what happens when you replace the whole coaching staff. But like the old adage goes, it takes money to make money. If I invest $100,000 today, yes I'm $100,000 poorer, but my hope is that my $100,000 turns into $1,000,000.


Because we were lectured by know it all's low expectations and reasoning didn't put trophies in the case. I find the philosophical shift to me amusing. Either we demand excellence or we don't ..
Right?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 6:07 am to
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Record wise we tied Tennessee, but they got the nod for head to head. We still get credit for a co-championship.



Have we really come to this?


The SEC counts it, and that is what I was responding to. This isn't an arbitrary thing.
Championships aren't decided by the school. They are decided by the governing body you are a member of.
Guys, I don't know what to tell you. The SEC recognizes it. If you don't want to, that's ok.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 6:14 am to
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Yea 2007 was pretty much the epitome of a lot of people's complaints.

The 2007 team finished ranked #2 in the country.

SO, if finishing #2 is the epitome of people's complaints, then that leaves only one other alternative capable of making them happy, right?

Being #1.

Yet, now that the coaches last name isn't Richt, #1 is suddenly the epitome of unrealistic expectations. The same fans who thought that finishing ranked second epitomized failure are now arguing in threads about whether which is more super awesome, 9 wins or 10. With 11 agreed upon as being the greatest thing ever! Dippity dee! go dogs
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 6:36 am to
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I find the philosophical shift to me amusing. Either we demand excellence or we don't ..



If you want to avoid the context of coaching tenure and roster quality, sure, but that's not real world shite.
Posted by AirDawg
The Great State of Calm
Member since Feb 2013
2015 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:56 am to
I'm in agreement with all who are using CMR as a measuring stick here. We fired him to do better or "to get us over the hump" and win Championships. Anything less is a failure.

CMR's career at Georgia (2001–2015)

Year--Overall--Conference


2001--(8–4)--(5–3)
2002--(13–1)--(7–1)
2003--(11–3)--(6–2)
2004--(10–2)--(6–2)
2005--(10–3)--(6–2)
2006--(9–4)--(4–4)
2007--(11–2)--(6–2)
2008--(10–3)--(6–2)
2009--(8–5)--(4–4)
2010--(6–7)--(3–5)
2011--(10–4)--(7–1)
2012--(12–2)--(7–1)
2013--(8–5)--(5–3)
2014--(10–3)--(6–2)
2015--(9–3)--(5–3)

Georgia: 145–51 83–37

-------------------------------

CKS Career at Georgia (2016)

Year--Overall--Conference

2016--(8-5)--(4-4)
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It seems to me, anything less than 13-1 and a Conference Championship is a failure and we are already behind the 8ball.


Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:07 am to
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It seems to me, anything less than 13-1 and a Conference Championship is a failure and we are already behind the 8ball.



I was a huge Richt fan, and still am. However, I think it unreasonable to expect a 13-1 record this year. I would love it if we make it, but Kirby deserves a chance to get a full set of his players on campus and his scheme settled in. I feel like we should expect big things in 2019. An improved year this year, and a very good year in 2018, but by 2019 he should have everything in place.

It's not fair to compare him the Mark Richt, or Mark Richt to him. they are two totally different personalities and styles.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:15 am to
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We fired him to do better


Than finishing unranked in a poll way too often as we did since 2009?
Posted by AirDawg
The Great State of Calm
Member since Feb 2013
2015 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:19 am to
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It's not fair to compare him the Mark Richt, or Mark Richt to him. they are two totally different personalities and styles.


Understandable and fair point, but with the way successes have come for other College teams/Coaches we made the change for one reason and one reason alone. Win Championships.

Year two under CKS and we have the roster and schedule to make a 13-1 type run. Our roster is beautiful even with questions at the OL and Receiver positions and even there we have a lot of talent. My expectation are high and I'm tired of hearing excuses. Not that you are but in general.

That said, I believe in CKS. I believe in our team and I think they're bringing in a different attitude.

Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
5374 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:50 am to
Even making it to Atlanta that year would've been nice. But no we couldn't do that because we lost to USCe at home and got absolutely waxed in Knoxville. When we clearly had the talent to beat both of those teams. Same team that almost lost to Vandy as well.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:55 am to
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e OL and Receiver positions and even there we


That's a question mark too big for the word "beautiful" to be used.

We lack talent in the starting ol and secondary, while some backups are very talented with zero experience.
Posted by AirDawg
The Great State of Calm
Member since Feb 2013
2015 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 10:04 am to
If you've watched football at all, then you lived to see Great...even Good Coaches take talent, coach it up, and plug it in the positions of need and turn a team into a championship contender. Saban does it every year.

It's not too far fetched to believe we can't do it given the talent and experience along the line. As far as receivers we have them. The talent is there.

And I'll double down on our beautiful roster. I can't wait to see the results. No excuses.
Posted by BranchDawg
Flowery Branch
Member since Nov 2013
9830 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 10:14 am to
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If you've watched football at all, then you lived to see Great...even Good Coaches take talent, coach it up, and plug it in the positions of need and turn a team into a championship contender. Saban does it every year. It's not too far fetched to believe we can't do it given the talent and experience along the line. As far as receivers we have them. The talent is there. And I'll double down on our beautiful roster. I can't wait to see the results. No excuses.


AAAALLLLL of this.

This is the season we find out what Kirby's coaching ability is.

An elite coach would be in the SEC title game easily with this roster. A mediocre one would win 8 games and make the Belk Bowl.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 10:23 am to
I am not saying we can't win big now, but I wouldn't bet the jungle on it. I am Saying You haven't learned a thing about being a uga fan the past 35 years.
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