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re: Wims does backflip after TD in scrimmage, has to sit in the corner

Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:56 pm to
Posted by jodeaux
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:56 pm to
I'm saying there's no positive repercussion from that sort of discipline. Make him run and chew him out but to demoralize him in front of his teammates and fans like that? He would've gotten the message without that crap.

We saw what happened to Godwin last year when Kirby rode his arse; it basically killed all the momentum he had from his Freshman season.
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:00 pm to
He was setting an expample for the entire team.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:00 pm to
you really think that was due to Kirby yelling at him.....
Posted by HTDawg
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:39 pm to
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We saw what happened to Godwin last year when Kirby rode his arse; it basically killed all the momentum he had from his Freshman season.


What momentum? I haven't seen any momentum from Godwin. Godwin has not even come close to living up to his potential. Hopefully he can remedy that this year, cause he only has one more chance left.
Posted by RhodeDawg
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:40 pm to
Posted by jodeaux
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:42 pm to
It's a stupid, old school mentality that has no direct correlation to building character or unifying a team for the season. It was the excessive and unnecessary treatment of a player who should have been penalized by taking his play time away.

I guarantee you it hurt team morale, which in turn hurts performance.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:43 pm to
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Not a fan of Kirby chewing the kid out like that. The guys need to have a little fun and we definitely need Wims to play big this year. When a coach does that its just a huge bummer for the team


Wtf. It's how you instill discipline, which is essential in a close game.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:44 pm to
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It was the excessive and unnecessary treatment of a player who should have been penalized by taking his play time away.

Taking your best WR's playing time away and losing would be more damaging to team morale than making him sit in the corner for a practive.
Posted by jodeaux
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:45 pm to
What momentum you say?

LINK
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

It's a stupid, old school mentality that has no direct correlation to building character or unifying a team for the season. It was the excessive and unnecessary treatment of a player who should have been penalized by taking his play time away. I guarantee you it hurt team morale, which in turn hurts performance.


Saban has just ruined the Bama program win his no nonsense attitude. No doubt those players lack confidence.
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:48 pm to
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Let me clarify, I definitely think Kirby should have reprimanded Wims but to make him stare at the wall? That's some weird/demoralizing Guantanamo Bay shite.

Also, making him run stadiums for 90 minutes? That seems to be excessive.

That's a huge confidence killer for a player we definitely need to be playing with full confidence.

Kirby should have just chewed him out and sat his arse for the rest of the game. The team would have gotten the point, Wims would have understood and he wouldn't have publicly humiliated a guy he needs this year.



We don't need snowflakes. If he can't take punishment we need to know now. Football is man's game not a therapy session. Bust his arse and find out what he's made of.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:55 pm to
You don't have to bust someone's arse for the sake of busting it... good leaders are firm, but fair. In this case, I feel it is safe to assume that this subject matter has already been discussed as not acceptable. It works out well that it happened in a scrimmage, where everyone could get the full affect without losing a game over it. I don't think it was unfair or over the top. I think a point was made and I hope it sticks.
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 8:27 pm
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:13 pm to
Seems like an over the top reaction by the Kang. One would think it would be more important to get Wims on the field to get better as a WR rather than just staring into concrete. What a waste of the remaining scrimmage for Wims if that is true. Maybe Kirby realizes Wims ain't going to start anyway, so make an example of him. If anything make Wims do that shite after the scrimmage, but not during it when he needs more game experience to work on his craft.
Posted by SumterCoDawg
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:21 pm to
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41644 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:27 pm to
Good for CKS. Kids need to learn some discipline. It's been severely lacking for years.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 5:39 pm to
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Wims does backflip after TD in scrimmage, has to sit in the corner

If Fromm had thrown it, I bet he'd probably have beat Kirby there to start the arse chewing.


Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 7:27 pm to
quote:

Kids need to learn some discipline. It's been severely lacking for years.


Does this mean that we really weren't building better men?
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 7:29 pm to
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Does this mean that we really weren't building better men?
Not in that regard, no.
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 9:51 pm to
Nick Saban disagrees with you.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12414 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 9:57 pm to
Disagrees about what? The leg room in a 450SL?
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