re: There's been a ton of talk the last year about the '13 class....what about '14?

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He does deserve some criticism, but he doesn't deserve to be written off completely like some people

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Some...or one?

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At the end of the day he will get a pass for a lot that happens this year, so just get over it and accept it.

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Hardly. There are too many people criticizing him for him to get a pass. So, you need to get over it and accept it.

If it were one person criticizing him, I would say something is wrong with that person. When half the fan base is noticing things, then maybe you should realize that he just might deserve the criticism.

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He does deserve some criticism,

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Let's get back to this. You tell me. What does he deserve criticism for?

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There are many more people being reasonable and patient than there are grabbing pitchforks.

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I've seen one person call for him to be fired. And he has offered to self ban. Can you point to others who have called for him to be fired? A LOT of people are criticizing....but only one for him to be fired.

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There aren't many here that are already calling for his job, but I assure you on other boards there are.

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Many? or one on here? I can't help what people on other boards are calling for, and I certainly won't defend anybody that calls for him to be fired in the first year.

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How about not having the team ready to blow out Vandy and Nichols, good enough?

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I think it's good enough. Which is what I have criticized him for, yet you seem to be offended that I have said that.

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Let me ask you something, do you have any criticisms for CMR, the one whose poor roster management has forced us to rely on Freshmen at way too many key positions.

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Richt has several things he can be criticized for.

We lost big in too many important games.
We lost too often a game that we should have won.
He did not recruit well on the OL.

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All I ever see from you regarding him, is defending poor Richt for being unfairly criticized which is bull shite

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Then you need to check out my posts. I have criticized him for more stuff and more often than you have Smart.
I DO defend him when he is criticized unfairly. I defended him when people said he left the cupboard bare. That simply is not true. If you can point out a time when I defended him and I was wrong feel free to point it out.

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The team should be 6-1 right now

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We could be, not should be. Teams with Freshman QBs, an undersized makeshift OL, mostly freshman DL, and no reliable playmakers at WR don't win many games. If I were to make a list of our best 15 players so far this season, I'm pretty sure a majority would be either Freshmen or Sophomores. That means good things are coming, but this year was never going to be a great one, that being said there isn't much of an excuse to barely beating Nicholls and losing to Vandy.

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We could be, not should be.

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What? If not for a lucky hail Mary that was defended horribly and if we had been ready for Vanderbilt...what would that make our record?
You're just being contrary, now. I could say the grass is green and you would argue that.

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That means good things are coming, but this year was never going to be a great one,

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I don't think anybody ever said this was going to be a great year. I picked us to come in 3rd in the East and finish with a 9-3 record. Honestly. Isn't that reasonable? I can pull up the preseason predictions from our fan base and the vast majority of the posters on here agreed that 8-4 or 9-3 is a doable thing.
Was everybody wrong about the talent we had on the team? Playing in the east, with the talent we have on the team a 9-3 record is reasonable.

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that being said there isn't much of an excuse to barely beating Nicholls and losing to Vandy.

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Those were bad games. Richt had his share, too. But, look....I have brought up Richt one time in a thread. Once. he is gone and Kirby Smart is the coach. I've said it before and i will say it again. I think he was the right hire, and I think he will do well. He is much more raw as a HC than I thought he would be, though.

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One last thing, I wouldn't be as forgiving of Smart this year if I wasn't seeing the great things I am on the recruiting trail,

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He is DEFINITELY killing it on the recruiting trail! And, yes! It is very exciting to see it.

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and of course the promise some of the younger guys have shown.

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There are always growing pains with young players. Hopefully it will pay off in a year or two.

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I've never seen us recruit the OL as hard as we have this year,

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And there is a legitimate complaint about Richt. He came from FSU where the philosophy was to recruit skill players and try to develop the rest. it didn't work out well the last few years.

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big time playmakers at WR that are all at least 6'2 or over,

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While not big time play makers, I was surprised to see how many WR's we have that are 6'1" or taller. Shocked, really.

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In years 2 and 3 if we're still struggling to beat the Nicholls and Vandy of the world, it'll be time to panic.

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We should all panic if we are struggling in 3-4 years with those teams. He shoudl have a handle on the coaching nuances by then, and hopefully have a roster full of talented players.

If he isn't what we had hoed as a coach, at least we will have a talented roster for the next guy.

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f not for a lucky hail Mary that was defended horribly and if we had been ready for Vanderbilt...what would that make our record?

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You can play the "if" game and have us losing a couple of other games too, just saying. That's why its could be and not should be.

Why the frick do you take over EVERY thread with paragraph after paragraph responses? I bet you wave your finger and call everyone deplorable don't you?

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That and the fact that he comes out and says he wants a power running game with a big powerful offensive line...and a focus on toughness and competition...is enough for me t

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So its about what he "says" and "wants" and that's enough for you?And that buys him "a lot of slack"?

Jesus,you've got to be kidding me.

Don't give a 2 shits about what he "says" or "wants". He's needs produce and quickly.
He also needs to establish some type of identiy for the team and himself.He just can't
pretend to be some type of Saban clone.

We should have an elite defense next year and make the trip to Atlanta in '18

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We do have enough talent to contend for the East. Knock down a hail mary Beat Vandy Beat Florida ....the East is won. And we have the talent to do that

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Well, if we had coaching and discipline.

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