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re: There's been a ton of talk the last year about the '13 class....what about '14?
Posted on 10/27/16 at 7:58 am to DawgsLife
Posted on 10/27/16 at 7:58 am to DawgsLife
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Folks have whined about richts poor OL recruiting for his whole career.
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Not his whole career, but yes. that has been a complaint the past 3-4 years.
I'm sorry DL but you're completely wrong here. People have complained about our OL recruiting for at LEAST 10 years, with good reason.
For starters, we haven't seemed to get many elite, 5* OL prospects which is surprising considering our program pedigree. The entire first half of richt's tenure was marred with constant shoulder injuries to OL, year after year. It was a running joke and a main reason people started getting fed up with our S&C. On top of that, many of the 4* guys that looked great on our signing day report were complete flops that never came close to panning out.
OL recruiting is far and away the biggest gaffe recruiting wise in richt's tenure. We've had like 3 truly solid, dependable, very good OLs in his 15 years, and one of them was in 02 with 5 upperclassmen that he didn't recruit.
That aint good.
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Posted on 10/27/16 at 8:00 am to DawgsLife
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Not his whole career, but yes. that has been a complaint the past 3-4 years.
and 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010....
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However, for 12-13 years of Richt being here we had very good QB development/play.
Went from Murray to Eason without producing a top flight QB.
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And yet we were an eyelash away from a National Championship appearance.
Thanks to the scheduling gods.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 8:07 am to djsdawg
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Went from Murray to Eason without producing a top flight QB.
well to be fair your sample size is only 2 years and in 50% of those years we got 68% completions, 21 TD/4 Int. That's certainly servicable.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 8:07 am to Crowknowsbest
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Looking at it a year out, I like our chances.
I hope so. We will need our Freshman class to contribute early on offense. defensively we should be lights out, though. I really do think we are on the right track. Recruiting is doing well, and that will make a big difference.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 8:09 am to djsdawg
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Thanks to the scheduling gods.
Our schedule has not gotten magically tough. We are still in the East, and the east might be the weakest it has ever been. And that is saying something.
ETA
In 1980 we had a pretty weak schedule, too. I'd be willing to bet nobody is going to offer to not count that National Championship.
This post was edited on 10/27/16 at 8:37 am
Posted on 10/27/16 at 8:44 am to WG_Dawg
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It was already a small class anyway with only 20 guys. Of those 20, only about half will even be on the team next year, and of those only about 5 will be major contributors.
That's 2 consecutive senior classes that have essentially been worthless. Yall can say what you want about kirby being unprepared or unfocused, but good holy hell there's only so much you can do with our roster. I just pray that our administration and team gives him the time he needs to actually start making headway.
We weren't winning the SEC east this year or next under any coach....but we have enough talent to beat Nichols State like a rented mule and losing to Vandy is never, ever, ever on talent. Neither game is indicative a solid coaching even first year coaching. Bad coaching sees a 2 quarter struggle in both games with a second half blow out due to natural talent....this did not happen because we insist on running the same shitty dive play because it is what Alabama, with far superior talent, does....
This season and next were going to be tough no matter what....it would have been the same with no one coaching....but we should never struggle for 60 minutes against the Nichols and Vandy's of the world...a half yes, all teams do that.....but our talent is not on par with Nichols and worse than Vandy's no matter how badly anyone wants to pretend otherwise...it just ain't...
Posted on 10/27/16 at 8:44 am to WG_Dawg
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I'm sorry DL but you're completely wrong here. People have complained about our OL recruiting for at LEAST 10 years, with good reason.
It's a possibility. maybe I didn't see it. But I don't remember a large amount of complaining until the last 2-3 years. However, I really believe that it has been more of a problem of developing more than talent. The OL is very difficult to gauge how it will translate into the college game. Obviously if you get nothing but 5* you have a pretty good chance of having a good OL, but nobody outside of Alabama and maybe Ohio State gets that. Arkansas certainly doesn't and they /usually/ have a pretty darn good OL. Same for Wisconsin and a couple of other schools.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 9:12 am to DawgsLife
quote:. Actually it is an exaggeration. Nobody other than Cobb has said we won't compete in the east for 4-5 more years. Most believe we should see improvement next year and be real contenders the year after that when our young guys grow up. Also, there is a difference between saying we don't have any talent compared to saying that we just have a lot of young guys who are learning on the job that will be playmakers one day.
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Not really. "The cupboard is bare..." ring any bells?
But please, continue to push your narrative and get shot down by anybody with common sense, it's pretty entertaining to watch.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 9:18 am to SumterCoDawg
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Actually it is an exaggeration. Nobody other than Cobb has said we won't compete in the east for 4-5 more years. Most believe we should see improvement next year and be real contenders the year after that when our young guys grow up. Also, there is a difference between saying we don't have any talent compared to saying that we just have a lot of young guys who are learning on the job that will be playmakers one day.
I understand all of this. But there is a very real core of posters saying this is a talentless team. they are not saying it is young.
You do know I didn't just make up "The cupboard is bare!" comment, right? it has been used more than once on here.
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But please, continue to push your narrative and get shot down by anybody with common sense, it's pretty entertaining to watch.
I'm confused. What narrative? The only thing I have said is that people are saying we have little to no talent and the cupboard is bare. have you not seen these posts? Would you like for me to find them and post them for you? It shouldn't be too difficult.
I KNOW there is talent on this team. I've been saying this for weeks.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 9:26 am to DawgsLife
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Would you like for me to find them and post them for you?
I, for one, would. Not because I disagree with you, but because I agree and want to see them and don't want to do the work myself
Posted on 10/27/16 at 9:36 am to DawgsLife
When I see the whole "cupboard is bare" posts it's usually in relation to the fact that we're in the position of having to start so many young guys and we have depth issues at certain positions. There are certainly posters saying we don't have any talent on the OL and WR, which is a little bit of an exaggeration with some truth behind it. Those are really the only two places you can argue that we don't have competent talent, everywhere else we're just young and green. Most reasonable people on here see a team full of young guys with a lot of potential, that just need a year or two more to develop into really talented players.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 9:50 am to SumterCoDawg
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When I see the whole "cupboard is bare" posts it's usually in relation to the fact that we're in the position of having to start so many young guys and we have depth issues at certain positions.
Then I would think they would have said that. I think, in the thread that was said...things such as:
No OL
No DL depth
No WR
no secondary
No pass rush
Poor ST
Inexperienced QB
In short....no offense or defense!
Don't get me wrong, Sumter....some of these are absolutely true. But these are being said in relation to our showing against Vanderbilt and Nicholls. "Cupboard bare" in no way insinuates there is talent there, it's just young.
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Most reasonable people on here see a team full of young guys with a lot of potential, that just need a year or two more to develop into really talented players.
And if this is your position, then I have no problem with you. it's the people claiming we lost to Vanderbilt and showed poorly against Nicholls saying we have not talent, or that our talent is lacking...THOSE are the people I have an issue with.
But don't say it is "my narrative" when I call out people claiming we have no talent. It most certainly is being said and not by one or two people.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 9:56 am to BranchDawg
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I, for one, would. Not because I disagree with you, but because I agree and want to see them and don't want to do the work myself
Crap! I had a bunch of them copied and pasted for a response and deleted it without posting. Sorry.
However, the reason I deleted it was it really does nothing for the board. We have all seen it, and I have repeated it over and over again. I have no problem with people saying that Kirby Smart needs more time. They are absolutely correct. I have no problem with people saying that we are thin at some positions and young at others. This, too, is correct.
My problem is people saying we have no talent and wanting to blame Mark Richt. It's people that, if somebody says something negative about the way the team performs they go all ballistic and insinuate I am not a true fan, or should go be a fan of Tennessee.
I find it laughable that last year if you criticized Richt, it was because you were a true fan and wanted to be better. You were not a true fan if you didn't want Richt fired. This year, if you want to perform better against Nicholls and Vanderbilt you are not a true fan.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 9:56 am to DawgsLife
FWIW....This is from Dawgs 24/7 today...
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We spoke with a NFL Scout on Wednesday morning and he asked not to be identified but did say it was ok to report he is scout for an AFC team.
***Want to have any and all information regarding Georgia Bulldogs athletics at your fingertips? Try VIP access to Dawgs247 for FREE until Jan. 2017!***
After seeing UGA in person on multiple occasions this year he gave us these quick thoughts: -
-“Seem to have little senior talent.” -
-“JR RB’s are solid, not sure that (Nick) Chubb is completely back or the same guy before that injury. Kid will be fine I’m sure hardworker.” -
-“ (Lorenzo) Carter kid is starting to post some numbers at linebacker.” -
-“Their clear best talent are those sophomores and freshman they have.” -
-“They are not very good at WR.”
This post was edited on 10/27/16 at 9:57 am
Posted on 10/27/16 at 11:17 am to DawgsLife
quote:I think this is about the eleventeenth time I've posted this towards you, but can you really not grasp the concept of people having more patience for a 1st year head coach than they did for one with 10+ years of experience? I feel like that's an easy thing to understand but maybe it's not.
I find it laughable that last year if you criticized Richt, it was because you were a true fan and wanted to be better. You were not a true fan if you didn't want Richt fired. This year, if you want to perform better against Nicholls and Vanderbilt you are not a true fan.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 11:21 am to SumterCoDawg
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Most believe we should see improvement next year and be real contenders the year after that when our young guys grow up.
Count me in this group ^^^
Change takes time folks. Let's allow the process to unfold.
It's called a process for a reason.
Now let's beat Floraduh
Posted on 10/27/16 at 11:22 am to SumterCoDawg
Hey yall.
We dont have enough talent to contend for the sec this year.
But we damn sure have enough talent to beat vandy, and shouldnt have had starters in the 4th Q to squeak by Nicholls.
We dont have enough talent to contend for the sec this year.
But we damn sure have enough talent to beat vandy, and shouldnt have had starters in the 4th Q to squeak by Nicholls.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 11:28 am to deeprig9
There are other factors involved besides talent.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 12:32 pm to SumterCoDawg
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I think this is about the eleventeenth time I've posted this towards you, but can you really not grasp the concept of people having more patience for a 1st year head coach than they did for one with 10+ years of experience?
And again...if a first year coach can't get the team ready to play Vanderbilt and Nicholls, then he deserves criticism. And that is probably the eleventeenth time I have posted that. Anybody could have coached Georgia over Vanderbilt and an easier victory over Nicholls. Why you can't understand this, amazes me.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 12:33 pm to RhodeDawg
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There are other factors involved besides talent.
Truly there is. However talent alone should have made those games MUCH easier.
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