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re: There's been a ton of talk the last year about the '13 class....what about '14?
Posted on 10/26/16 at 7:05 pm to Chris_topher
Posted on 10/26/16 at 7:05 pm to Chris_topher
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The OL game consists of transfers and converting DL too, it's that important
You are absolutely right.
I always thought Mike "Meatball" Thornton should have been moved to guard, would have been a sick guard. Problem is we already had damn good guards that year.
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Posted on 10/26/16 at 7:53 pm to WG_Dawg
WG,
I just gave your OP it's 6th upvote.
We also need to keep in mind there are things beyond our understanding that are at work here.
Zen means different things to different people, I think of Zen as the state of mind when you daydream about a giraffe running free through the African savannah, the way a virus replicates, the way a hermit crab creeps around looking for a dead shell to crawl into.
I can zone out thinking about these things.
There are things that happen just because they happen.
It can make you dizzy thinking about things too much.
2013
2+0+1+3 = ????
I just gave your OP it's 6th upvote.
We also need to keep in mind there are things beyond our understanding that are at work here.
Zen means different things to different people, I think of Zen as the state of mind when you daydream about a giraffe running free through the African savannah, the way a virus replicates, the way a hermit crab creeps around looking for a dead shell to crawl into.
I can zone out thinking about these things.
There are things that happen just because they happen.
It can make you dizzy thinking about things too much.
2013
2+0+1+3 = ????
Posted on 10/26/16 at 8:09 pm to Chris_topher
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The OL game consists of transfers and converting DL too, it's that important
I think you wandered off the Tech board with that comment. Down linemen don't often switch sides of the LOS in the SEC. It happens, but not often.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 8:29 pm to Cobb Dawg
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I think you wandered off the Tech board with that comment. Down linemen don't often switch sides of the LOS in the SEC. It happens, but not often.
I was talking about the East
Posted on 10/26/16 at 8:49 pm to deeprig9
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Imagine stacking those classes on top of each other, back to back each year...
This is what gives a team the depth to survive an injury or suspension of a key player. Depth is something we have always seemed to lack. Just look at some of the names on the roster. They never see the field while the Alabamas and Ohio States just keep rolling them out there.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 9:32 pm to BranchDawg
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My point is this: we were told for a decade that Georgia was loaded with ungodly amounts of talent and was underachieving with 10-3 records SOLELY because of Richt's incompetence/complacency/Christianity. We needed to make a change because we were capable of DOMINATING college football if we just had a coach with his head on straight.
Part of being a championship head coach is competent roster mgmt and elite recruiting. Richt was incompetent in that regard, and maybe because of complacency, and his lack of drive in regards to football.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 10:27 pm to djsdawg
I didn't hear any complaints about roster deficiencies until Kirby took over.
But, oh well. Y'all got your wish of Richt being fired, so y'all get to write the history I guess.
I'm expecting a quick, noticeable turn around next year. Onward.
But, oh well. Y'all got your wish of Richt being fired, so y'all get to write the history I guess.
I'm expecting a quick, noticeable turn around next year. Onward.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 10:46 pm to Chris_topher
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I was talking about the East
With a little luck, in 2018 we go full Kipling in the SECG:
And the end of the fight is a tombstone white with the name of the late deceased,
And the epitaph drear: "A Fool lies here who tried to hustle the East."
Posted on 10/26/16 at 11:28 pm to Chris_topher
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I was talking about the East
I'm talking about the ACC.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 6:57 am to BranchDawg
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I didn't hear any complaints about roster deficiencies until Kirby took over.
My advice is to take the Ear plugs out:
Folks have whined about richts poor OL recruiting for his whole career.
There was tons of poor qb development talk last year because Virginias back up qb won our job.
Folks weren't happy when we had 68 players vs bama in 2012.
Folks even discussed the awful 2013 class before this year.
This post was edited on 10/27/16 at 7:05 am
Posted on 10/27/16 at 7:10 am to djsdawg
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Folks have whined about richts poor OL recruiting for his whole career. There was tons of poor qb development talk last year because Virginias back up qb won our job. Folks weren't happy when we had 68 players vs bama in 2012. Folks even discussed the awful 2013 class before this year. My advice is to take the Ear plugs out.
This though I wouldn't call it whining, just objective facing of the facts. As you aptly point out, it wasn't just talent deficiency in the trenches but also the incomplete/non-full rosters due to insufficient recruiting. I get that all coaches miss on targeted recruits but you have to have contingency plans that fill out your roster. Every missing player on an incomplete roster is lost potential for a player who might have contributed at a high level for your team or at least serve as a capable backup.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 7:12 am to djsdawg
I just hate that Richt got beat out for all those 2 Stars by Nichols State.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 7:20 am to Peter Buck
No OL talent under Richt?
Please go look at NFL rosters and come back and talk to me
Please go look at NFL rosters and come back and talk to me
Posted on 10/27/16 at 7:33 am to SumterCoDawg
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Holy exaggeration, Batman.
Not really. "The cupboard is bare..." ring any bells?
OL, DL, WR, DB, LB have no depth or talent. We have been told all of these things. "This is a horrible team!" is another favorite.
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Not exactly true,
Actually it is exactly true. "With the talent we have and playing a soft schedule AND in a down East, a mediocre coach could win 10 games!" That was last year we heard that one.
Last year we should have competed with the talent we have year in and year out for the playoffs. This year we have a horrible team with no talent.
Want to know the breakdown of talent on the Georgia roster and the Florida roster?
5* players:
UGA-8
Florida-3
4* players:
UGA-37
Florida-22
Georgia has recruited more highly touted prospects along the defensive and offensive line, linebacker, quarterback, and tight end. Florida has out-recruited Georgia, in terms of the 247Sports Composite, at defensive back, running back, and wide receiver.
This was in an article from 247.
LINK
It would appear as if we have a clear talent advantage over Florida.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 7:44 am to DawgsLife
Florida has the opposite problem we do. The freshman and sophomore classes are not good. Their upperclassmen talent on defense is big time, which is why they're decent.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 7:46 am to djsdawg
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Folks have whined about richts poor OL recruiting for his whole career.
Not his whole career, but yes. that has been a complaint the past 3-4 years.
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There was tons of poor qb development talk last year because Virginias back up qb won our job.
However, for 12-13 years of Richt being here we had very good QB development/play.
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Folks weren't happy when we had 68 players vs bama in 2012.
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Folks weren't happy when we had 68 players vs bama in 2012.
And yet we were an eyelash away from a National Championship appearance.
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Folks even discussed the awful 2013 class before this year.
It began last season. Fairly late I think, but it was there.
However, if you check the article I linked to in my post above you will see that we have out recruited Florida in almost every facet of the game.....including the OL and DL. Florida has done better at the WR and DB areas. We have done better in just about every other area. (Yes, I know Richt struggled mightily against Florida with this talent...but this isn't about Richt. We all (Or most of us) agree it was time for him to go.)
Posted on 10/27/16 at 7:51 am to Crowknowsbest
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Florida has the opposite problem we do. The freshman and sophomore classes are not good. Their upperclassmen talent on defense is big time, which is why they're decent.
Then next year definitely should not be a problem for us, then. Their top upper classmen should be gone with nothing behind them.
People don't seem to realize that it isn't just about talent...and it isn't just about coaching. It takes both. Teams with far inferior talent have overachieved for years. Louisville doesn't have near the talent we do. (One player cannot make a team great...Jackson can elevate but he can't explain their complete domination) Washington, Nebraska and Clemson are not recruiting machines. Neither are West Virginia or Wisconsin.
Some coaches can elevate inferior talent, and some rely on superior talent to dominate or even do well.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 7:54 am to DawgNation4
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No OL talent under Richt?
Please go look at NFL rosters and come back and talk to me
He was here for 15 years, the number of OL starters he put in the NFL isn't really very much at all considering the length of time he had.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 7:56 am to WG_Dawg
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He was here for 15 years, the number of OL starters he put in the NFL isn't really very much at all considering the length of time he had.
In fairness the average career of a NFL Lineman is something like 4 years.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 7:56 am to DawgsLife
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Then next year definitely should not be a problem for us, then.
Looking at it a year out, I like our chances.
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People don't seem to realize that it isn't just about talent...and it isn't just about coaching. It takes both.
Obviously. Commenting on the talent =/= ignoring coaching
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