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re: The Pruitt Deception?............................

Posted on 5/23/14 at 11:28 pm to
Posted by MSGADawg5988
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 5/23/14 at 11:28 pm to
I will tell you why everyone is so hyped up about our defense is because name another time where a team has hired a DC that won a national championship the year before? Call me a Disney Dawg all you want, but the defense will be better. It isn't going to be right out of the gate but by the 4th game Pruitt will have us playing at a competitive level.
This post was edited on 5/23/14 at 11:29 pm
Posted by MSGADawg5988
Member since Feb 2014
1361 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 11:30 pm to
Watch FSU's season, after the Boston College game he made adjustments to the defense and the rest is history. Ask any FSU fan and they will tell you the same thing. After that game things changed defensively. They were playing cupcakes but I still like our chances with the schedule we have. Just gotta make it through the first two games'
Posted by Nicolae
Member since Dec 2012
1880 posts
Posted on 5/23/14 at 11:49 pm to
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Just reminds me of Christmas when you’re a kid….and there’s this fancy shiny present under the tree from some relative you never see….with high-dollar wrapping paper…..and ribbons and plaid bows with some miniature pine-cones and fake holly on it……..

Then, you peel that fake shite off, and what‘s inside?

A sweater. And socks. frick!!!!!!!!!!


And then you take a moment to realize that last year, our defense was that kid that didn't even have shoes and wore the same t-shirt and pair of jeans every day because it was all they had. So that sweater and socks looks pretty damn good.

In your analogy though, I think you'll find that you got all worked up about those two and didn't even notice that stack of gifts behind the tree about 40 deep.

As it stands Grantham fluked his way into being 5 yards away. I'm as proud of the fight we put up in that game as anyone, but to pretend we didn't back our way into the game and into the position we were in in the game is disingenuous.

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You mean the secondary, not the whole defense, right?


No, the whole defense. The one that was statistically the worst defense UGA has ever fielded.

Going back to that same SECCG, the Cooper touchdown over Swann highlighted the issue with our secondary and guys not knowing what they were doing or trusting anyone else to make the play. Of course maybe if that horrible secondary ( ) hadn't given up 350+ rushing yards, Swann wouldn't have bit so hard on the PA fake?
Posted by Nicolae
Member since Dec 2012
1880 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 12:07 am to
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The bad is that he seems disingenuous to me. Snake in the grass, it's a vibe I get.


But you got a good vibe from that fruitcake Grantham?

He did nothing but lie about his "NFL defense", Louisville can have it, IMO. He said he'd rotate more, he didn't. He said he'd simply the defense and guys wouldn't be running around confused, he didn't and it honestly looked like he did the opposite.

That goddamned towel. Nobody was stealing your plays, asshat! Your own fricking players didn't even know what they were about to run! On the rare occasion they did it was so obvious that the opposing OC knew it too and the towel never mattered either way.

And we paid this fricker how much money to sit on his fat arse, act elite, and produce the biggest pile of shite defense this school has ever seen? I cannot understand how anyone can defend him. Not hate him? Sure, I get that, but not defending him.

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Linebackers have all played great under Grantham, a linebacker guy by trade.

Secondary was Lakatos fault.

Grantham is unfairly being sent out to the shite pasture.


What? No, the OLBs were very talented and pretty good, but only Jarvis was ever really a beast under Grantham and I don't think CTG had much to do with that, tbh. Jarvis gonna Jarvis. They did not really seem to know what they were doing though and nobody on our defense had any fundamentals at all.

The ILBs were great under Belin, but marginal at best under Oliviadooti. And my god his recruiting was just horrible, he was on a level with Ball and Friend.

Secondary was Lakatos' fault, but who made that hire? Who allowed him to let that unit get so bad? Who didn't pitch in with helping to recruit secondary players like he needed to? Who didn't rotate in backups and make sure we had a solid two deep prepared at the position? Who didn't simplify the playbook so these brain surgeons could learn it like he was told to? All that falls on Grantham.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 12:08 am to


Can of Skoal bandits in right front pocket.......



Pruitt dips Kodiak winter green. Bobo chews Levi Garret. but, RIcht has two miniature schnauzers and doesn;t play golf. frick!!!!




Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14162 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 8:52 am to
Some are not so easily deceived....

A beacon of light in the darkness....

Not a heavy handed smack down by any means...but just trying to softly begin to temper expectations.
This post was edited on 5/24/14 at 9:03 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 10:14 am to
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As it stands, Grantham was 5 yards away from having the exact same endorsement that is making everyone believe in Pruitt.



But the defense still wasn't what i considered the strength of the team. It WAS the strength for Florida St. last season. That and Pruitt's defenses have put up stronger numbers over an extended time frame. Add to that, Pruitt secondary's usually do pretty well, and that is where we were very bad last season.

However, I think it prudent to approach with a certain amount of caution. Many will panic if we don't hang shutouts in the first few games, and that is unrealistic. He's been over hyped to the extent that nobody can live up to it. It think we will see significant improvement this year over last, and then steady improvement going forward, if he stays. The main thing is, we needed a change, and we made a change going in the right direction. We just need to make sure changes going forward are careful and correct.
Posted by cantseefade1
Barzoom, Mars
Member since Mar 2013
638 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 10:18 am to
That was a well reasoned post. It has no place here. Seriously though, Pruitt is clearly a great coordinator and will put his own system in place. My fear is that the perfect storm of a bridge QB combined with a new coordinator with a thin, inexperienced secondary could mean trouble. I think we will put up 30+ a game though, so we should be alright.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 10:19 am to
I wish most of you here were hot girls
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 10:19 am to
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Pruitt got his at FSU from Stoops and was just an assistant to Smart at Bama.


But that is life. You learn how to do the job...then you do the job, then you shine, right? The thing to take away, is he inherited a very good defense and he didn't come in and wreck it. they got a little better, and that bodes well. We won't TRULY know for a couple of years. But if you don't catch the rising star...well, when is the last time we got an established star?


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The bad is that he seems disingenuous to me. Snake in the grass, it's a vibe I get.



What kind of vibe do you get from Obama? You answer will tell me how far I can trust your vibe!
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63885 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 10:21 am to
Already making excuses for him...



This is classic.


First it was "How could he NOT have a better defense, CTG was so horrible!"

Then is was "It may take some time to change systems, but his system is simpler so they'll learn it quick, and he's a great teacher"

Now it is "We'll have to have patience with him, it's ok if his defense sucks at first"


This shite is cyclical.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63885 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 10:22 am to
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What kind of vibe do you get from Obama? You answer will tell me how far I can trust your vibe!


Obama is a mostly honest communist, he actually believes the bullshite coming out of his mouth most of the time. You can tell when he knows he's bullshitting, he's not very good at it, unlike most politicians. Whenever he's bullshitting, he starts in with the vocal disfluencies um um uh uh uh. That's why he never had success as a lawyer.



Next question.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 10:23 am to
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Secondary was Lakatos fault.

Grantham is unfairly being sent out to the shite pasture.




To a certain degree I can agree with you. I said awhile back it would be interesting to see how the secondary progresses if everything remained the same except the secondary coach. However, CTG is also responsible for the whole defense.

And lest you forget it was Todd Grantham that hired Lakatos.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 10:26 am to
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Everybody was frustrated.

Which provides a great opportunity for Pruitt and the Staff to capitalize on..... and hit home-runs with the fans through SOUND-BYTES and TALK!


That's all it is though, so far.............Talk.



Who else was a better candidate, that would have come to Georgia? In my opinion, he was the very best candidate. We went out and got him. I don't remember the last time Georgia got a semi-established rising star before Pruitt.

I realize your thread is mainly to get attention...but I disagree with your conventional wisdom is almost always wrong statement.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63885 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 10:27 am to
Then fire richt.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63885 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 10:42 am to
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We gave up 29 ppg...worst in the CMR era.



Did you know that a pick-6 counts against the defense in that number?

Did you know that there is no adjustment made for when the offense turns the ball over in their own redzone, and the defense does their job and holds them to a field goal, those 3 points that should be against the offense actually get held against the defense?

Did you know that special teams points also count against the defense in that number?

Did you also know that UGA's schedule last year was the most difficult schedule in the CMR era?

Did you know that our wounded offense and piss poor special teams didn't do the defense any favors?

Did you know that 3 different true freshmen started in the secondary, and JHC, while not a freshman, was also a first-time starter?

All of these things contributed to the 29 ppg number.

It's a stupid statistic.

Grantham's front 7 were nothing less than immaculate last year.

Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25872 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 10:46 am to
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Grantham's front 7 were nothing less than immaculate last year.

That's a stretch. The first half of the Auburn game stands out.

You can say all you want to defend him, but the defense wasn't good enough last year. You can say it was because of youth in the secondary, but it was Grantham's fourth year. He'd had four years to recruit and develop replacements for the guys that left. He failed.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 10:47 am to
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Already making excuses for him...


No. Don't you think he has been overhyped? I said that I thought the defense would show significant improvement. That is not what I can an excuse. If our "D" does show significant improvement, will you agree that it was the right move?


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First it was "How could he NOT have a better defense, CTG was so horrible!"


I never said CTG was horrible. just probably not what georgia needs. I DO find it interesting that many on here talk about how the defense was too difficult for the players, (Particularly the seondary) and when two of our players from the secondary left, they both chose Louisville and Grantham. That says something, to me.

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Now it is "We'll have to have patience with him, it's ok if his defense sucks at first"


You find this unreasonable? I don't think the defense will be horrible, but I do believe it might take a couple of games to get everybody on the same page.


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This shite is cyclical.


Not really. Stanford has been known as a tough defensive team for many years, As has Alabama, and LSU. They may have small dips in their performance, but they never completely fall apart
one year and come back strong the next.


Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 10:49 am to
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Obama is a mostly honest communist,


Communist, or Socialist?

I believe he honestly believes in Socialism....I don't happen to.

However, I should not have gone into politics. My bad.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 5/24/14 at 10:52 am to
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Then fire richt.


Too much success overall. He deserves a certain amount of blame, too. He is ultimately responsible. However, I see where Richt is making some excellent moves last couple of years. I think he has turned the corner personally, and will have us there again very soon. I am willing to give Richt 2-3 more years. If we are not at LEAST in the playoff, I would say it is time for a change.
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