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re: Richt tweets that he doesn't expect to know gurleys status
Posted on 10/16/14 at 12:23 pm to Spaceman Spiff
Posted on 10/16/14 at 12:23 pm to Spaceman Spiff
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To that end, what would be the point of holding out the best player in the nation? And use valid points, not anti-richt flaming, please.
My entire post was valid points, no?
This this the entire purpose of the message board.
He held out Justin Scott Wesley didn't he?
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 12:25 pm to GaBassFisher92
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When was this posted?
About an hour ago. Even if Chip is wrong, I'm mentally preparing myself for the worst.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 12:27 pm to RedPants
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Even if Chip is wrong, I'm mentally preparing myself for the worst.
Yeah, not getting my hopes for seeing Gurley soon. At least this time I won't be blindsided by a lengthy suspension like I was for AJ Green.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 12:27 pm to JCdawg
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no
You have that part correct.
And I doubt Richt arbitrarily held out JSW for all 4 games. Good chance since that meets 30% of the season and is a suspension we have seen commonly handed out, there's more to it than we knew.
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 10/16/14 at 12:32 pm to RedPants
I asked Chip where it had been reported that Gurley definitely was NOT traveling. He answered that he was reporting it. I asked him twice if he had new info since the tweet from Richt earlier in the morning and he never answered me. Personally, I think he's just speculating.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 12:34 pm to wdhalgren
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quote:Richt is treating this quote:Richt says he can quote:may agree with Richt quote:Richt is an employee of State Government Are you a troll, or just dumb? CMR is not calling the shots here. I doubt that McGarity is either, at least not in a vacuum. Your attempts to blame this situation on CMR is just idiotic. He didn't cause it, and it's not in his ability to rectify it.
This is a message board right, or are you dumb. I can post my personal opinions on here. Richt is an employee of state government. The initial report is that Georgia, not the NCAA, suspended Gurley.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 12:36 pm to JCdawg
Richt /= UGA compliance dept. Richt didn't suspend Gurley
Posted on 10/16/14 at 12:37 pm to TMDawg
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quote:no You have that part correct. And I doubt Richt arbitrarily held out JSW for all 4 games. Good chance since that meets 30% of the season and is a suspension we have seen commonly handed out, there's more to it than we knew.
-Gurley was suspended by Georgia because of a supposed email that was send from Bryan Allen because he took money for autographs.
-Nobody has confirmed the exact amount even though Bryan said thousands, there is no number, or proof of any money exchange. (That we know of)
-Some reports are saying $398, which constitutes a one game suspension.
-Georgia has a state law that incriminates people from enticing NCAA scholarship students to break NCAA bylaws, and Bryan Allen quickly lawyered up.
Which part of this isn't true?
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 10/16/14 at 12:41 pm to JCdawg
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Which part of this isn't true?
Oh I don't know, maybe the part you purposefully left out in your reply:
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Richt is treating this like he treats injuries. "I'll let him play when I'm ready to let him play, and I'll the public know when I'm ready to let the public know". I'll bet the NCAA has hardly a thing to do with this because of the way Georgia is handling it. Kolton Houston effed up and said Gurley will play when Richt says he can, then when questioned by the reporter he backtracked. Georgia probably could have gotten away with not suspending him at all, there is probably no proof he took money. Some of you may agree with Richt, others may not, but this is personally what I believe is going on. I think its rediculous, Richt is an employee of State Government, and everything should be public knowledge.
^ this would be the parts I disagree with
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 10/16/14 at 12:47 pm to TMDawg
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Which part of this isn't true? Oh I don't know, maybe the part you purposefully left out in your reply: quote:Richt is treating this like he treats injuries. "I'll let him play when I'm ready to let him play, and I'll the public know when I'm ready to let the public know". I'll bet the NCAA has hardly a thing to do with this because of the way Georgia is handling it. Kolton Houston effed up and said Gurley will play when Richt says he can, then when questioned by the reporter he backtracked. Georgia probably could have gotten away with not suspending him at all, there is probably no proof he took money. Some of you may agree with Richt, others may not, but this is personally what I believe is going on. I think its rediculous, Richt is an employee of State Government, and everything should be public knowledge. ^ this would be the parts I disagree with
That part was not bulleted, and is completely my opinion, in which I'm entitled to. If you don't think Mark Richt is about as coy of a person when it comes to his football players injuries and suspensions, then I completely disagree.
How can he say with such an assertion that will we know one way or the other by Friday, then completely retract that with a tweet less then 24 hours later. It is completely rediculous in my opinion. With everything that Jamous Winston and Manziel have done and been accused of, there has only been a game and a half suspesnion between the both of them.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 12:48 pm to JCdawg
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rediculous
*ridiculous
Posted on 10/16/14 at 12:50 pm to JCdawg
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With everything that Jamous Winston and Manziel have done and been accused of, there has only been a game and a half suspesnion between the both of them.
those players never admitted to anything, and didn't have an accuser with photo and video talking to the press. Don't you see the difference? It's not rocket science. Not a single one of us knows the full truth, but IF gurley admitted to taking money, that pretty much does away with any sort of big dicking we can do. Jameis has a bunch of autographs online. Ok..there's no proof of money. Manziel there wasn't definitive proof of money, and it took THREE WEEKS for his decision to be made. We're all asking for todd to be ruled on in less than a week.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 12:51 pm to JCdawg
I do agree that he has been much more coy with regards to suspensions. But those have been ones that are under UGA's control. I just think this case is different, do you think he wants this hanging over the team/program and draining energy any more than it already is?
And my assumption, which may be incorrect, regarding his statement is that the program is walking on eggshells with the ncaa because of the swimming investigation and not wanting multiple UGA programs getting in trouble.
The difference in Manziel's case was they had the whole summer so they could really fight it and drag it out without risk.
And yea, the jameis stuff is bullshite, but noone is accusing him of taking money from them and that makes it different. For now at least.
And my assumption, which may be incorrect, regarding his statement is that the program is walking on eggshells with the ncaa because of the swimming investigation and not wanting multiple UGA programs getting in trouble.
The difference in Manziel's case was they had the whole summer so they could really fight it and drag it out without risk.
And yea, the jameis stuff is bullshite, but noone is accusing him of taking money from them and that makes it different. For now at least.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 12:52 pm to WG_Dawg
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quote:With everything that Jamous Winston and Manziel have done and been accused of, there has only been a game and a half suspesnion between the both of them. those players never admitted to anything, and didn't have an accuser with photo and video talking to the press. Don't you see the difference? It's not rocket science. Not a single one of us knows the full truth, but IF gurley admitted to taking money, that pretty much does away with any sort of big dicking we can do. Jameis has a bunch of autographs online. Ok..there's no proof of money. Manziel there wasn't definitive proof of money, and it took THREE WEEKS for his decision to be made. We're all asking for todd to be ruled on in less than a week.
Do we know that Gurley has admitted to anything? I thought there was a video of Manziel, just no exchange of money?
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 10/16/14 at 12:52 pm to JCdawg
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Which part of this isn't true?
Let's go back to the post to which I responded. Here's what you said:
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Richt is treating this like he treats injuries.
Richt says what the UGA lawyers, administration, AD, and compliance department tell him to say. He's not a loose cannon, and is not going to go around his superiors and conduct some kind of media campaign. This situation is completely different from handling of injury reports.
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Kolton Houston effed up and said Gurley will play when Richt says he can
If that's what he said, then Kolton Houston was wrong. This is not now and never will be CMR's decision.
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Some of you may agree with Richt, others may not, but this is personally what I believe is going on.
Your personal belief is irrelevant and misinformed.
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Richt is an employee of State Government, and everything should be public knowledge.
I'm not sure why you thought that public employees have carte blanche to inform the public of every fact at their disposal, but once again you are misinformed. This is a legal situation that involves our entire athletic department. CMR is being advised to keep facts private until told otherwise. He is not going to go against that legal advice and directives from his superiors at the University of Georgia.
Those are all points of error. As for your other comments about amount or proof., it's all pure speculation and has no bearing on what CMR should or shouldn't do or say to the public.
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 10/16/14 at 12:56 pm to TMDawg
My gut feeling is UGA was worried Allen had evidence and that if they played Gurley after being notified of the autographs, once the evidence got to the NCAA, UGA would be in deep shite. Therefore Gurley allegedly admitted to taking money. By time UGA found out there wasn't hard evidence, the train was out of the station thus the alleged $400 or less to try and get 1 game. Once he admitted to taking money, they can't just play him and tell the NCAA they can't prove it because you know they'd dig as hard as they can and find something to ruin us on.
That is entirely speculation on my part.
That is entirely speculation on my part.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 12:57 pm to JCdawg
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Do we know that Gurley has admitted to anything
Not definitively but I would be beyond amazed if he hadn't given that he is still sitting out. And basically all of the speculation by pay sites and beat writers etc revolves around the length of suspension more than "did he do it or not?"
Posted on 10/16/14 at 1:01 pm to JCdawg
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Richt is an employee of State Government, and everything should be public knowledge.
Cool. So when can I expect the UGA Playbook downloaded in PDF form on GDs.com?
Posted on 10/16/14 at 1:02 pm to wdhalgren
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Your personal belief is irrelevant and misinformed
Your breaking down my personal opinions with your personal opinions. I guess yours are irrelevant as well. I'll keep that in mind next time you post something.
Posted on 10/16/14 at 1:03 pm to TMDawg
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quote:Do we know that Gurley has admitted to anything Not definitively but I would be beyond amazed if he hadn't given that he is still sitting out. And basically all of the speculation by pay sites and beat writers etc revolves around the length of suspension more than "did he do it or not?"
I appreciate your mature response. I didn't think he had for sure either, but there is no way of knowing I guess.
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