re: OT - Senate Report on Intelligence

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My current duties require a secret and so my TS was lowered and I have been told IF I needed the TS again it would require the entire investigation again.

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A TS has a 5 year life span just like the secret has a 10 year lifespan. As long as you find another job requiring a TS clearance before it expires all you would have to do is your 5 year update in EQIP. I go thru this every 5 years.

I read recently that there were 5 million people with the various agency equivalents to a TS clearance....how the hell are 5 million people gonna keep a secret?

I appreciate ya'lls information about the TS...I was under the impression that if I needed it again I would have to do the entire thing over again...not a big deal but having to come up with names and dates from so long ago is a pain in the arse.

I never understood why it is that radiation workers in an operating nuclear facility had to have a Q clearance...the DoE equivalent of a TS clearance while the same worker in a facility under construction OR an employee in the exact same operating facility who does not regularly require rad-worker training may need only a secret clearance (L clearance in the DoE) and possibly no clearance at all. The entire process is more about fishing for people other than the applicant than it is about the applicant themselves. I just did my 10 year renewal and the information required regarding relatives is much more in depth than it has been in the past....and I have had some form of clearance since the late 80's.

And finally for the conspiracy theorists out there...when I first got a TS clearance for the DoE it took about 6 months total time for the investigation...I was granted an interim in about 45 days but it was close to 6 months before it was completed. It now only takes about 45 days from start to finish because the governments ability to verify the information provided is so much quicker. You cant have a wet fart in this country today without some government agency making a note of it and storing that information. There is a sobering thought for the nose pickers among us.....

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I read recently that there were 5 million people with the various agency equivalents to a TS clearance....how the hell are 5 million people gonna keep a secret?

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Times are changing as well. Pretty soon they are going to start limiting clearances. With the plethora of intelligence leaks it's going to be harder and harder to acquire a clearance and some jobs are going to start requiring a Poly that didn't previously require one. Sometimes an clerance may be requires just based on the rooms you need to enter in order to do your job. You may not need the info being looked at but if your day to day job is involved or assists then you will need that level of clearance to do that work.

My suggestion to you is save your SF86. Make multiple copies of it and keep one stored in a safe deposit box. That way when you have to update your clearance you don't have to go back 10 years. They have made some changes in how far you have to go back making it a little bit easier but it's still a pain in the arse.

Just joining in here but I have a few thoughts on the matter:

1. People suck
2. Governments are made up of greedy and power-hungry people who suck and they abuse the power they have
3. Sucky people will use sucky intentions and sucky means to accomplish sucky outcomes
4. Sucky people sometimes have good intentions
5. Good intentions of sucky people often times lead to sucky outcomes
6. War sucks but can be useful
7. Useful, sucky wars usually have sucky outcomes in many ways
8. Islam sucks