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re: Kirby Smart's loser decision

Posted on 10/2/16 at 10:58 pm to
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 10/2/16 at 10:58 pm to
Trust them more than a bounce.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/2/16 at 11:08 pm to
My guess is that by seasons end, you will be the only one.

Catalina will be replaced by Wynn and Blazevich will get fewer and fewer reps as the young guys up their blocking game.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 11:19 pm to
he isnt doing a great job, but he is not as bad as some on here paint him. With that said, if someone can do a better job for us, I'm all for it.
Posted by LedDawgK
GA
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 10/2/16 at 11:53 pm to
quote:

Ole Miss beat us with a bunch of freshmen at WR and CB making plays on us.


1 freshman WR with 4 catches..2 Freshman DB's came in with a 6 TD lead
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 6:04 am to
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You trust our punter who had never nailed a punt inside the ten?


It doesn't have to be inside the ten. If he puts it inside the 20 you come out ahead. Unfortunately he put it in the endzone (IIRC) and they got it on the 20, which still isn't horrible. I don't know....I think I would have punted too, so I won't criticize Kirby for doing that.

I thought Ramsey did a pretty good job punting last year. I don't understand why he hasn't gotten a shot at it this year.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/3/16 at 7:40 am to
Between the 10 and 20 is a net 18 to 28 yard gain. You don't really start putting pressure on the QB /offense until you get it inside the 5. I guess we don't know how confident the staff was as to our ability was to do so.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 8:23 am to
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Between the 10 and 20 is a net 18 to 28 yard gain. You don't really start putting pressure on the QB /offense until you get it inside the 5.


But, I would think the purpose would be to make the offense go farther for a score....and if you can get it to the 10 that's even better.

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I guess we don't know how confident the staff was as to our ability was to do so.


They probably weren't very confident in their ability to make the 4th and 5, kick a field goal OR punt inside the 10! That's kind of a no mans land. They will get second guessed no matter what decision they make. And, anybody second guessing them could make a very valid point. It's just a no win situation.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25597 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 8:38 am to
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1 freshman WR with 4 catches..2 Freshman DB's came in with a 6 TD lead


They were playmakers against our #1s. If a true freshman is playing faster, stronger, and more polished than our starters, then we probably aren't the only team in team in the league with young talent to be excited about. Those kids were extremely highly ranked recruits ,by the way. The type of recruits we need to beat a Bama, tOSU, etc..
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 10/3/16 at 9:33 am to
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can you trust Catalin a or Blazevich on our blind side.


It's a quick pass situation so that's not quite the issue.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 10/3/16 at 9:36 am to
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the purpose would be to make the offense go farther for a score....and if you can get it to the 10 that's even better.


True, but a better purpose is to keep the ball and perhaps score.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 9:41 am to
You get that first down and you start getting into their time outs too.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 1:29 pm to
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4th and 5 is statistically in the 30s. Punting inside the 10 is much less odds...


Hence the point that it was a choice between bad options. It was the ogre's choice/pick-your-poison.

Enh, as Dostoevsky said - everything seems stupid when it fails.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32873 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 1:33 pm to
Makes sent to choose the option with more upside and a higher probability of success.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25597 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 1:57 pm to
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It's a quick pass situation so that's not quite the issue


Our fumble in the endzone was a quick pass play.
We had a couple of passes tipped on quick pass plays against Tennessee.

Tennessee had success defending quick pass plays against us.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 2:07 pm to
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True, but a better purpose is to keep the ball and perhaps score.


Sure....if you make the first down. You MIGHT make the first down, but if you punt you definitely back them up.

Like I said....if we had gone for it and made it, you would have been a genius in your way of thinking. The ball was in no mans land, and your decision is as good as my thoughts. I am not saying you are wrong. I am just saying what I would have felt comfortable doing.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

Makes sent to choose the option with more upside and a higher probability of success.


While going for the first down definitely has the higher upside...punting has the higher chance of success. If you punt, you DEFINITELY back your opponent up. IF you get the ball inside the 10 that's great. but either way you back your opponent up. Not sure why this has devolved into a punt not being successful unless we get it inside the 10.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32873 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

endzone was a quick pass play.
We had a couple of passes tipped on quick pass plays against Tennessee.


I am not going to pretend to know what the play call was there and you shouldn't either
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25597 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 10:01 pm to
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I am not going to pretend to know what the play call was there and you shouldn't either


Well, since Eason was prepared to throw the ball in under 2 seconds but pulled it down because Pike's man already had a hand in the throwing lane... I think it is safe to say that the intent was to get rid of the football in under 2 seconds.

I just read a replay where pressure was gething to Eason in 2.3 to 2.7 seconds on a lot of the big plays (pick, sack/fumble, etc..). The OL is on roller skates. We are going to have to start cut blocking to get the defenders hands down on these quick routes.
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