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re: Kirby Smart's loser decision

Posted on 10/2/16 at 8:06 pm to
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 10/2/16 at 8:06 pm to
There is some judgement to that call... As long as they are calling it the same way, I'm good... They had an out of uni player on the field waving a towel and a coach make a play on a ball. Not sure if you saw that on TV, but he did... If they call those, I'm ok with the call at th end of the game. Otherwise. Hold it in your pocket unless they get out of hand...
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 8:08 pm to
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Doesn't change the fact that statistically, it's only a 30-odd percent chance. The fact that we've beaten the odds in a relatively small sample size does not mean that the pattern will hold.


4th and 5 is statistically in the 30s. Punting inside the 10 is much less odds...
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13164 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 8:20 pm to
These are the kind of decisions you are forced into when you don't have a reliable FG kicker. But for the record I probably would have gone for it on 4th down under those circumstances.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 8:23 pm to
We are talking a 55 yard FG. Single digit probability for most kickers and close to the same for a block.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6945 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 8:31 pm to
Kirby is not confident our run game would pick up 5 yards. The defense would be loaded against the pass because they didn't fear our run game either. Chubb not being healthy limits our options. Kick the ball.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14196 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 8:38 pm to
5 is a long conversion when they've been crashing the pocket all night. Even if you don't stick it inside the 10 you still give them a long field. I like the call.

There are lot of decisions that can be second guessed...and the coaches made their mistakes. For the most part we've been pretty clean on penalties and seem to be doing the best we can with what we have.

At this point though Beamer is the only on coach that has me scratching my head. I don't know if he earned his way or has been riding in daddy's coat tails but other than that fake punt last week they haven't been pulling their weight. Also - damned if I wouldn't have kicked that last one as far as I could. Their whole team was up on the line so we should have been able to get back there and cover it.

Oh well.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32867 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 8:48 pm to
5 is a quick route, so protection isn't as big of a deal.

And giving berry a ton of open space to run would have likely been a bad proposition. What we did was the right move against the wrong formation.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 8:52 pm to
5 yards is a 3 step drop or maybe 5 step... Takes blitzes almost out of play unless someone goes unblocked up the middle.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25597 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 9:11 pm to
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5 yards is a 3 step drop or maybe 5 step... Takes blitzes almost out of play unless someone goes unblocked up the middle.


We had passes batted up in the air on 3 step drops against UT. It isn't just the sack where pressure can get you.

I don't trust our LT. Punting was the safer option.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27298 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 9:18 pm to
iMAC isn't a WR.It does take a while to learn the posistion...main reason Ridley hasn't been on the field.Also been dinged up a little bit
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 9:26 pm to
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We had passes batted up in the air on 3 step drops against UT. It isn't just the sack where pressure can get you. I don't trust our LT. Punting was the safer option.


You can minimize D lineman getting hands up by engaging them.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32867 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 9:31 pm to
You trust our punter who had never nailed a punt inside the ten? The risk reward ratio supports the call made.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6945 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 9:36 pm to
Kirby called for that kick to be "as high as possible." That meant it went 48 yards, about 20 yards shorter than normal. But Berry caught it on the run and returned it 20 yards to our 40. That made it possible for the Hail Mary.
I would have kicked it on a line down the middle and hoped it hit the ground and rolled.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25597 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 9:43 pm to
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You trust our punter who had never nailed a punt inside the ten? The risk reward ratio supports the call made


The punt was good. The coverage was down field when the punt landed. All it would take is the right bounce.

If Tennessee attempted the fair catch, it would have been done with a lot of traffic and a lot of pressure.

Yes. They were trustworthy.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14196 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 9:48 pm to
Did we have any TO's left before the kickoff?
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 9:49 pm to
No. Used last one before our long pass.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14196 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 9:58 pm to
Seems a lot like the GT loss. We've been covering kicks pretty well all day - and their only chance to score is to be close enough to arm it to the end zone. I like our chances of kicking it deep and hoping we cover it and stop them out of Dobs arm reach.

Oh well.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32867 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 10:02 pm to
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All it would take is the right bounce. If Tennessee attempted the fair catch, it would have been done with a lot of traffic and a lot of pressure. Yes. They were trustworthy.


You can't trust a bounce.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 10:35 pm to
One of the reasons you don't field a punt inside the 10 is you have solid odds that goes into the end zone.
This post was edited on 10/2/16 at 10:36 pm
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25597 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 10:52 pm to
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You can't trust a bounce


Nope. Neither can you trust Catalin a or Blazevich on our blind side.
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