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re: Grantham to LSU Chatter

Posted on 1/9/15 at 7:21 pm to
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 1/9/15 at 7:21 pm to
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Explain if one is good enough to go to the NFL, why it matters whether he was a 2 or 5 star.


I haz cheeseburger
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 1/9/15 at 7:24 pm to
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Every starter on our defense in 2014 was a Grantham recruit.


He didn't even want Sanders, and Carter wasn't his recruit either. Next.

ETA: I agree with VoxDawg's assessment of Grantham's horrendous SECCG.
This post was edited on 1/9/15 at 7:25 pm
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 1/9/15 at 7:28 pm to
Who was Carter recruited by?
Who was Sanders recruited by?



I'll get to Vox in a minute.
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/9/15 at 7:42 pm to
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Who was Sanders recruited by?
Sanders wasn't offered until Pruitt came in.
Posted by deeprig9
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/9/15 at 7:44 pm to
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CTG didn't tear anybody's ACL in '13, but I can sure as shite hang the defense giving up 353+ yards on the ground when Alabama's RBs absolutely went Duke lacrosse team on that overrated, fat frick in the '12 SECCG. Not properly substituting on the DL rotation in the second half of the same game? That's on him, too.

In what was unquestionably the most important game in UGA football history since 1980, his defensive genius cost us the victory. Don't let Bama's run game eviscerate the defense and it doesn't matter WTF Murray does with the ball with 5 sec left on the clock.

Granham's broken arse defense cost us a national championship.

Defend.


In 2012, LSU was up on Bama. No one was really sure how good McCarron was. But when it mattered, McCarron's final drive to win that game and clinch the West was beautiful. He looked like an NFL quarterback.

Fast forward a few weeks, Bama is in the championship game, down a bunch of points in the second half, Grantham and Richt didn't want a replay of the AJ McCarron show.

We had held Yeldon and what's-his-fat-arse-oh-yeah-lacy to minimal production for the entire game, so Grantham made a one-position sub to keep McCarron from repeating the dramatic comeback.

Saban made the adjustment, great blocking (and no holding calls) and yeldon ran all over us for a number of drives.

At that point, it was a chess game. As soon as Grantham would stack the box or a safety peek at the qb, Grantham feared the play action pass, as he should have.

The show that Murray put on at the end was the same show Grantham's defense was preventing for most of the 2nd half from McCarron.

There were alot of subtleties in that game. To dumb it down to "Granthams fat he fat he defense bad run alabama fast fail fat Grantham" is just fricking stupid.
Posted by Spunky
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Posted on 1/9/15 at 7:51 pm to
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 1/9/15 at 8:14 pm to
The week after that LSU game (when McCarron threw a dump off screen pass that Yeldon took to the house, it wasn't some amazing throw), McCarron got picked off on the goal line going in for the win against A&M. If Grantham feared McCarron's arm more than Alabama's running game, then he should have been fired before he got on the bus back to Athens. That is idiotic.
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 1/9/15 at 8:22 pm to
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The week after that LSU game (when McCarron threw a dump off screen pass that Yeldon took to the house, it wasn't some amazing throw), McCarron got picked off on the goal line going in for the win against A&M. If Grantham feared McCarron's arm more than Alabama's running game, then he should have been fired before he got on the bus back to Athens. That is idiotic.


Then Kirby Smart should have been fired for what UGA did to them with inferior talent.

Hell, the buck stops with Saban. Saban is a piece of shite and he's been scamming the Bama faithful for years by paying off refs.

It was a close game. Highest level of talent and highest level of coaching going against each other on the highest stage.

Throwing Grantham under the bus is stupid.

Petrino must know nothing about football.

And Richt must be a moron too, because he and SixSigma named Grantham the Associate Head Coach, not Bobo.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 1/9/15 at 8:24 pm to
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Then Kirby Smart should have been fired for what UGA did to them with inferior talent.


Gurley was the best player on the field, and Murray was the best QB in that game.

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Throwing Grantham under the bus is stupid


Alabama ran the same 5-6 plays for the entire second half and he was clueless on how to stop it. Exact same thing Auburn did to him in 2013.
This post was edited on 1/9/15 at 8:26 pm
Posted by Shockley03
Knoxville, TN
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/9/15 at 8:59 pm to
I don't care about one game. What got me is this 2012 defense and every defense Grantham had never getting the play in on time and juniors and seniors looking lost on the field when the play started. There are several player comments about NFL defenses being simpler than Grantham's defense. You also saw it in our bowl game this year. Just a little bit of HUNO, and his D looks lost, tired, and confused.
Posted by deeprig9
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/9/15 at 9:23 pm to
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What got me is this 2012 defense and every defense Grantham had never getting the play in on time and juniors and seniors looking lost on the field when the play started. There are several player comments about NFL defenses being simpler than Grantham's defense. You also saw it in our bowl game this year. Just a little bit of HUNO, and his D looks lost, tired, and confused.



ALL DEFENSES struggle with hurry up offense. That's why Saban wanted it banned.

As far as Ogletree tweeting about the playbook, that was one player. Not multiple players over multiple years.

Grantham bringing in NFL style defense was the whole schtick, that was the whole point. It was determined that we'd have good years and bad years. 2013 was a bad year, a rebuilding year.

If Grantham was still our coach, you would agree with me.


But because he left for more money, you want to act like a prissy hurt bitch ex girlfriend.
Posted by bwoody
Georgia
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 1/9/15 at 9:39 pm to
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Saban made the adjustment, great blocking (and no holding calls) and yeldon ran all over us for a number of drives

Saban figured out we couldn't stop the run and he exploited it. We made no such adjustments to stop the run (substituting) and Bama took the momentum and never gave it up.
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The show that Murray put on at the end was the same show Grantham's defense was preventing for most of the 2nd half from McCarron.

This is just fricking stupid. We were in desperation mode. Bama's defense was in prevent, allowing Murray to put on "the show" and find space across the middle. Not taking anything away from him, it still took a good QB to do what he did. McCarron didn't need another miracle pass. They ran it down our throats until the safeties finally creeped up and allowed him to find Cooper for the go ahead score on play action.
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To dumb it down to "Granthams fat he fat he defense bad run alabama fast fail fat Grantham" is just fricking stupid.

Dumb it down to this, dipshit, that defense was full of NFL talent and was manhandled physically the entire second half.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 1/9/15 at 9:51 pm to
Grantham consistently put out a good pass rush, and was not a terrible defensive coordinator. The thing that was so frustrating about Grantham was the lack of being prepared for hurry up offenses (I know it's tough, but the 1st game of the season against Clemson was inexcusable), not being ready coming out of timeouts or change of possessions, struggles in 3rd and long situations, and not being told to bat the ball down against Auburn. I don't think Grantham is a bad DC, but I do think he underperformed a little with the talent we had and Pruitt is an upgrade. I think he is a pretty decent recruiter though so I wouldn't mind him taking players away from Auburn and Bama.
This post was edited on 1/9/15 at 9:52 pm
Posted by Shockley03
Knoxville, TN
Member since Oct 2012
703 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 9:57 pm to
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ALL DEFENSES struggle with hurry up offense. That's why Saban wanted it banned.


You don't understand that we looked lost and out of position so many times in 2012 along with every other year. No one is mentioning 2013. We all knew the 2013 defense wasn't going to be great, but you would at least think we would get the basics of lining up and getting the play in. That is pee wee football shite right there. HOW CAN YOU BE A COLLEGE DC AND NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE YOUR PLAYERS LINE UP RIGHT AND GET THE DAMN PLAY IN?! This is where everyone had it with him. 3 years and you're still making day 1 mistakes. I can understand just get exploited by a very good football team every now and then, no one is perfect. In 2012, you had 10 players in or going to be drafted in the NFL on that D. How can you make day 1 mistakes 2 years into installing a new D with upperclassmen all over the field?
Posted by deeprig9
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/9/15 at 10:11 pm to
You really are a dumb motherfricker. Like Dumb dumb.


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that defense was full of NFL talent and was manhandled physically the entire second half.


... by MORE NFL talent. You dumb frick.


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Saban figured out we couldn't stop the run and he exploited it. We made no such adjustments to stop the run (substituting) and Bama took the momentum and never gave it up.


Almost correct... Saban figured out we wouldn't stop the run because we were in pass protection playing with a lead. In the first half, Grantham stopped the run handily.



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We were in desperation mode. Bama's defense was in prevent, allowing Murray to put on "the show" and find space across the middle.



Is this how you explain yourself to your coworkers at the jiffy lube? Scratching your goatee by the water cooler, which is just tapwater because your failing franchise can't afford the actual service, you explain to your co-workers why and how Saban and Richt made the wrong decisions during the game, plain as day, and your co-workers respect you, because you have the biggest truck in the parking lot, and spend alot of time on the internet, and your ex wife ain't never gonna see a dime of that alimony?

Bama was in a prevent same as Grantham was. Problem is that Bama had a whole half to come back, UGA only had 2 minutes.


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bwoody



I'm guessing you also believe that 3rd century aristocrats and Muslims get to dictate who goes to heaven and who goes to hell.

Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63886 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 10:13 pm to
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You don't understand that we looked lost and out of position so many times in 2012 along with every other year. No one is mentioning 2013. We all knew the 2013 defense wasn't going to be great, but you would at least think we would get the basics of lining up and getting the play in. That is pee wee football shite right there. HOW CAN YOU BE A COLLEGE DC AND NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE YOUR PLAYERS LINE UP RIGHT AND GET THE DAMN PLAY IN?! This is where everyone had it with him. 3 years and you're still making day 1 mistakes. I can understand just get exploited by a very good football team every now and then, no one is perfect. In 2012, you had 10 players in or going to be drafted in the NFL on that D. How can you make day 1 mistakes 2 years into installing a new D with upperclassmen all over the field?


Show me 3 plays in 2012 where the defense was lined up wrong and confused.

Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63886 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 10:22 pm to
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not being told to bat the ball down against Auburn.


Are you fricking kidding me?

Seriously, is this a god damn joke?

Maybe the fricking governor should have taken the time to walk down to the sideline and grabbed Trigga and THC and explained to them how much this last play meant to the state of Georgia.

Maybe Nick Saban should be fired too. He gave up a bigger clusterfrick last minute play to lose to Auburn than UGA did that year. How could Saban not know that Gus had a horse shoe up his arse, and how could he not see that Auburn clearly had a return man under the goal posts, how did he not warn his players to be mindful of a potential return, knowing his kicker was out of range? This is Day One stuff. How can a head coach in the SEC make Day One frickups like that in such big games? After 7 years!!! Fire Saban!!!
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 10:36 pm to
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senior laden defense like we had in 2012.


Worst rushing defense in UGA's history.

Let's rattle a few games off from that year.

Buffalo... 190+ yards rushing
Kentucky...200 yards rushing by one of the worst UK teams EVER.
Ga Tech...300 yards rushing
Ga Southern...300 yards rushing
Tennessee...190+ yards rushing (and 44 pts)

Defense showed up in 3 games...Vandy,AU(not saying much)and UF.
Posted by deeprig9
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/9/15 at 10:45 pm to
So now the CTG haters are arguing with themselves.


Interesting?


I'm done with you sad sorry bitches. My point has been made. At this point it's not a discussion or a debate. It's just me vs ignorant titty bitches.

It's about time for one of you to commit suicide again.
Posted by Shockley03
Knoxville, TN
Member since Oct 2012
703 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 10:47 pm to
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Show me 3 plays in 2012 where the defense was lined up wrong and confused.


It'll be hard to find three plays where they lined up right
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