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re: E. Holyfield Arrested
Posted on 5/1/17 at 2:11 pm to IT_Dawg
Posted on 5/1/17 at 2:11 pm to IT_Dawg
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Do we actually know what happened or are we just assuming that he didn't roll up next to the PD with his window down and a blunt hanging out of his mouth?
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3am, probably some RA from the dorm called UGA police and they took him downtown to post bail.
Called it....what a fricking joke
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Posted on 5/1/17 at 2:28 pm to RedPants
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That society and the state shouldn't care at all about a kid having less than an ounce of weed in his possession.
Yes that's what we want from our football coach....a political stance on the legalization of weed.
Maybe we can have hemp uniforms....I hear they're indestructible and can cure cancer if you sleep in them....
This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 5/1/17 at 2:40 pm to DawgCountry
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According to a police report obtained by Dawgs247 a pair of UGA police offers were called to Vandiver Hall by a resident adviser who had detected the smell of marijuana coming from Holyfield's dorm room
Okay...this is bullshite but there's a few things you guys need to keep in mind and there are some things that need to be considered. And for the record I don't agree with this...it just is what it is.
Once the cops are called they have to respond and investigate. If they don't and EH kills somebody or falls out a window cause he's high...police and UGA get sued by Evander, the family and everyone there to see it...
If EH opens the door and is high...and they let him go and he falls out the window or kills somebody later...police and UGA gets sued by the family, Evander and everyone that was there to see it...
If they arrest him and then drop him off at Kirby's house.... police and UGA gets sued by everyone that was ever arrested for pot that DIDN'T get dropped off at Kirby's house. Plus, if it leaks out its a PR nightmare.
IMO this is an RA problem...because he started the chain of events that has to only go one way once in motion. Our RA used to tap on the door and tell us tone it down...but he was cool. Who knows about this guy? Personally, I don't think EH did a good enough job sucking up to his RA.
This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 5/1/17 at 3:05 pm to VADawg
and 99% of the bad things too...
Posted on 5/1/17 at 3:26 pm to wizatlanta
Posted on 5/1/17 at 3:43 pm to SquatchDawg
This is 100% on the RA. What part of 'mind you're own business - these ain't high school kids' - does he not understand?
Notice that we had a similar situation a year ago, also when an RA called the cops because his little nose was offended by the smell of the evil weed. If it was the same RA, I think he's the one who needs internal discipline...not the players who are and will continue to do the same things that 75% of other college students are doing (and that most of them will do in the NFL if they get there).
This nonsense about cannabis needed to end a long time ago... 65% of Americans now support legalization. A fair share of the 35% who don't will be dead in a decade...
Notice that we had a similar situation a year ago, also when an RA called the cops because his little nose was offended by the smell of the evil weed. If it was the same RA, I think he's the one who needs internal discipline...not the players who are and will continue to do the same things that 75% of other college students are doing (and that most of them will do in the NFL if they get there).
This nonsense about cannabis needed to end a long time ago... 65% of Americans now support legalization. A fair share of the 35% who don't will be dead in a decade...
Posted on 5/1/17 at 5:14 pm to Lucius Clay
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This is 100% on the RA. What part of 'mind you're own business - these ain't high school kids' - does he not understand?
I'm not saying I have an issue with weed, because I really don't...just playing Devil's advocate. But are we really calling the RA out for doing what he/she is supposed to do? If and when they detect something going on in the dorm that is illegal (whether it should or shouldn't be is not the issue), do we really just want them to turn a blind eye? If they do that for the athletes, but nobody else, are we okay with that double standard? You can't smoke in or around these buildings, period.....cigarettes, cigars, blunts, whatever. If the RA smells someone lighting up his corn cob pipe in the dorm, he has an obligation to address it. That's his job.
Are we just going to give EH a pass on this and his culpability in the situation because we don't personally think weed is a big deal? It's not like these kids don't get this stuff preached at them for hours even before they ever get here. They know the rules, they know what happens if they break them. I can't help but think this is 100% on EH for making a poor decision.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 5:35 pm to S1C EM
Gotta agree. If this were any regular student, nobody would be posting about it or getting upset with the RA.
Proof? I've never seen a thread like this about a regular student. (Before anybody says anything, we have OT stuff all the time) The only reason people are upset is because he plays football. He knew better and he did it anyway.
Bigger problem that these kids need to understand...particularly if they have a legit chance to go to the NFL is that I have seen reports of several players dropping in the draft because of several positive tests. It costs them money. Sometimes big money.
Proof? I've never seen a thread like this about a regular student. (Before anybody says anything, we have OT stuff all the time) The only reason people are upset is because he plays football. He knew better and he did it anyway.
Bigger problem that these kids need to understand...particularly if they have a legit chance to go to the NFL is that I have seen reports of several players dropping in the draft because of several positive tests. It costs them money. Sometimes big money.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 6:47 pm to Peter Buck
quote:Then throw in the fact that the weed in Athens is probably better than the rest of the SEC schools, then add all the hot arse white girls and parties going on and you can see why these guys will act their age.
It happens everywhere, all the time. It's just that in Athens, they take these menaces off the streets and put them in jail... because of freedom and America.
At least the dude isn't drinking alcohol and driving around. We all know weed >>>>>>> alcohol. What we really need to have happen is for Kirby to get the local PD to let UGA handle these victimless crimes internally instead of profiting off these kids by throwing them in jail.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 6:54 pm to h0bnail
quote:Sometimes your own ethics and morals may go against archaic rules.
A message that he's going rogue against university policy?
Posted on 5/1/17 at 7:04 pm to DawgGONIT
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What we really need to have happen is for Kirby to get the local PD to let UGA handle these victimless crimes
Then who will handle the non-athletes' "victimless crimes"? Is that the precedent you wish to set?
These kids have all they'll ever need sitting on a silver platter right in front of them and the only thing they have to do is walk a not-so-difficult line.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 7:54 pm to S1C EM
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But are we really calling the RA out for doing what he/she is supposed to do?
Man. I forgot how RAs were always such dorks. Mine was a 22 year old named Ashlee with two E's. A senior living in a freshman dorm...voluntarily. Imagine!
Posted on 5/1/17 at 8:26 pm to FinleyStreet
The real issue here is that it is 2017 and weed is still illegal. 
frick Nancy Reagan!
frick Nancy Reagan!
This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 5/1/17 at 8:33 pm to S1C EM
First, our policy of suspension puts us at a disadvantage to teams in our own confrence.
Second, as much money as the players are making for the University. The least they could do is do like most everywhere else and not arrest kids for shite that doesn't warrant arrest in most parts of the US.
Second, as much money as the players are making for the University. The least they could do is do like most everywhere else and not arrest kids for shite that doesn't warrant arrest in most parts of the US.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 4:30 am to DawgsLife
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dent, nobody would be posting about it or getting upset with the RA.
Proof? I've never seen a thread like this about a regular student. (Before anybody says anything, we have OT stuff all the time) The only reason people are upset is because he plays football. He knew better and he did it anyway.
Then you are not paying attention. ACCPD's use of UGA students as their cash cow is very well documented. They'd much rather bust an underage drinking jaywalker than a serial armed robber. Simply no money in busting an armed robber outside greshams disco.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 6:11 am to FinleyStreet
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Man. I forgot how RAs were always such dorks. Mine was a 22 year old named Ashlee with two E's. A senior living in a freshman dorm...voluntarily. Imagine!
Keep in mind that they get their housing free. Most don't do it unless they really need to cut costs by doing it. If they don't enforce the rules and something happens, they lose their position and it cost them money....a lot of money. It could be the difference between staying in school or not.
Funny how we sit back and criticize a football player if he doesn't do his job, then criticize others when they do theirs. A lot of people on here need some perspective.
(This was not aimed at you, Finley. Just in general)
Posted on 5/2/17 at 6:16 am to WorkinDawg
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a serial armed robber.
There's a lot of serial armed robbers in Athens, are there?
The people in a college town that are going to get into trouble are college students.
They are the ones that are going to be drinking too much, smoking weed and getting into trouble with pranks, due to immaturity. Everybody should understand this. Plus, the college kids probably outnumber the regular people in town. (A lot of major college towns anyway)
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 6:17 am
Posted on 5/2/17 at 6:49 am to DawgsLife
I think he could probably get a pass for not smelling some weed at 3 a.m. on a Monday morning.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:05 am to h0bnail
Seriously though... what would happen to a RA at Bama if they narced on some of their players? Or at Auburn?
Chip, story for you... see how many felony and misdemeanor arrests made by University and by local police on football players by SEC team over the last 10 years. It would be interesting to see the data. I, sure your fellow beat writers could help.
Chip, story for you... see how many felony and misdemeanor arrests made by University and by local police on football players by SEC team over the last 10 years. It would be interesting to see the data. I, sure your fellow beat writers could help.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:03 am to h0bnail
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I think he could probably get a pass for not smelling some weed at 3 a.m. on a Monday morning.
Maybe...unless something bad happened. Hey. I know people are going to disagree with me. But the older you get, you take on a new perspective. He was doing his job. I've gotten speeding tickets in my lifetime....some for going 9 or 10 miles an hour over the speed limit. Could the cop have turned a blind eye and let me go and there would be no harm done? yes. But I never blamed the cop because he was doing his job. At some point you don't blame the guy for doing his job. You blame yourself for doing something stupid that you knew was wrong.
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