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re: Does anyone realistically expect Eason to take the starters spot in '16???
Posted on 4/6/15 at 8:11 pm to smokehouse_83
Posted on 4/6/15 at 8:11 pm to smokehouse_83
So you are saying that Park is a world beater who will be kept in a closet for the 2015 season to ensure that Eason signs in 2016?
Sarcasm, I guess.
Sarcasm, I guess.
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 8:26 pm to Whiznot
It's funny that we all get into these discussions .... and that's what the off season is all about I guess...but there probably won't be anyone this year who is heads and above better than the other guys. Park seems to be lagging due to inexperience but by fall who knows? This one may come down to who knows the plays and can get it done when it counts. I hope for their sake they let these kids compete in the early games so they can show what they've got and maybe one will rise to the occasion.
Just look at the Masters....the leaders on Fri or even Sat rarely make it through Sun to put on the jacket.
Just think what it's like to be these guys. I'm sure they were all superstars from jr high through high school...and now you're out there competing with your friends for enormous stakes. It has to be tough to go through this wringer knowing the difference is a starting role under the lights vs holding the clip board. Also...they have to know the phenom is coming next year and theyll have to compete again. Competion Is part of life but I doubt anyone here has ever been in a role like this where you and your buddy are fighting like hell for one spot...and its a zero sum game. That's a tough deal for a 20 year old kid.
Just look at the Masters....the leaders on Fri or even Sat rarely make it through Sun to put on the jacket.
Just think what it's like to be these guys. I'm sure they were all superstars from jr high through high school...and now you're out there competing with your friends for enormous stakes. It has to be tough to go through this wringer knowing the difference is a starting role under the lights vs holding the clip board. Also...they have to know the phenom is coming next year and theyll have to compete again. Competion Is part of life but I doubt anyone here has ever been in a role like this where you and your buddy are fighting like hell for one spot...and its a zero sum game. That's a tough deal for a 20 year old kid.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 9:14 pm to SquatchDawg
If you are married do you want your girlfriend to meet your wife? I just think Park gots what it takes and this is his first year playing and next year we got Tom frickin Brady comin in.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 9:15 pm to SquatchDawg
I agree squatch. With two weak opponents starting the season there is no reason settle on just one guy based only on scrimmages. Some players are great in practice but freeze in live action and some guys are simply money players.
For years I played 9 ball pool for cash and in tournaments. I knew players who could play better than me if nothing was at stake but would lose every time when it got serious.
It drives me crazy that David Greene never saw live NFL action while weaker QBs played for many teams.
For years I played 9 ball pool for cash and in tournaments. I knew players who could play better than me if nothing was at stake but would lose every time when it got serious.
It drives me crazy that David Greene never saw live NFL action while weaker QBs played for many teams.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 9:24 pm to dallasga6
Depends on what happens this year. If whoever wins the spot is ho-hum at best, I can see an argument for Eason starting as a true frosh next year. Unless he is simply incredible during his pre-season, I'd rather see Eason redshirt.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 9:33 pm to smokehouse_83
My wife gave birth to 2 10 lb boys. After watching that I'd be scared for my life and my girlfriends if they ever met.
My whole thing with Eason is that I don't know if he has the talent to overcome SEC speed and lack of experience year one. I don't want him to get OTJ training solely because he's going to be awesome 1 or 2 years later. I want the guy who gives us our best chance to win in 2016 ...not 2017 or 2018...starting in 2016. If that's eason then more power to him.
I have a lot of faith in CMR on Judging QBs though so it's all good.
My whole thing with Eason is that I don't know if he has the talent to overcome SEC speed and lack of experience year one. I don't want him to get OTJ training solely because he's going to be awesome 1 or 2 years later. I want the guy who gives us our best chance to win in 2016 ...not 2017 or 2018...starting in 2016. If that's eason then more power to him.
I have a lot of faith in CMR on Judging QBs though so it's all good.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 6:33 am to SquatchDawg
The kid's still in high school. I'll worry about Eason when he gets on campus.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 6:46 am to TripleBrass
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The kid's still in high school. I'll worry about Eason when he gets on campus.
He may not even come to campus. This thread is the epitome of counting your chickens before they're hatched.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 7:44 am to SneakyWaff1es
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He may not even come to campus.
And Chubb may transfer before the season starts. Anything is possible, but sometimes it's ok to make a safe assumption. There is absolutely nothing that would lead anyone to believe that eason will be anywhere other than Athens when he goes to college.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 8:31 am to FooManChoo
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Depends on what happens this year. If whoever wins the spot is ho-hum at best, I can see an argument for Eason starting as a true frosh next year.
I'm not sure there's any way he starts game 1 his freshman year. It is just so, so hard for a TFr to come in and play that well right out of the gate. I wholeheartedly think he should play in 16, even if we bring him along slowly. Maybe like we did with DJ...Greene was an established starter going into 02, but we gave Shock a few series a game to let him get his feet wet. Eason is just too good to keep off the field, if everything everyone says is correct.
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I'd rather see Eason redshirt.
I don't know what benefit that would be to us. It is pretty unlikely he'll stay here for 5 years. And even if he does redshirt, he'd still go into '17 with absolutely zero game experience. The only way a QB will get better is to play.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 8:52 am to WG_Dawg
I'm torn on this. Our 2016 team looks like it could be our most loaded team since at least 2012 and I want the best QB, regardless of age, on the field that season. But man it would be a lot to ask a true freshman to go win a national title.
I really, really don't want Eason's first road start to be 2017 in South Bend. I would like him to have some experience under his belt before that game.
I really, really don't want Eason's first road start to be 2017 in South Bend. I would like him to have some experience under his belt before that game.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:05 am to WG_Dawg
I definitely get what you're saying but we haven't had a good track record of getting backups experience in real game situations in recent years. Unless the starting QB is injured, we stick with him until we're up by 30 in the 4th, and we are rarely in that position.
To not RS Eason would mean that we are planning on getting him reps in real game situations where we may not be in the thick of it, and if we're going to use a year of eligibility, why not just let him start unless he turns into a choke artist once he gets to campus? If not start, then switch him out regularly, which I don't see happening unless Schotty is a different man than Bobo in that regard.
To not RS Eason would mean that we are planning on getting him reps in real game situations where we may not be in the thick of it, and if we're going to use a year of eligibility, why not just let him start unless he turns into a choke artist once he gets to campus? If not start, then switch him out regularly, which I don't see happening unless Schotty is a different man than Bobo in that regard.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:10 am to FooManChoo
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I definitely get what you're saying but we haven't had a good track record of getting backups experience in real game situations in recent years
I agree, you're right we havne't. We also haven't had an elite player like eason either. The last 2 times we've had a guy (that was healthy, so don't give me '09 murray) that was ultra talented with an incumbent ahead of him, we did that. Staff in 06 and Shock in 02 both got in their very first game. Staff's situation was an odd one (jt injury) but we had scripted series for DJ from 02-04. I don't see why we wouldn't do the same with eason.
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To not RS Eason would mean that we are planning on getting him reps in real game situations
Which we should. We open with UNC so maybe we give him one series in the first half (like we did with DJ) and one in the 3rd quarter. Just anything to give him real live reps. Then we have a tomato can in game 2, no reason why he can't play a full quarter.
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why not just let him start unless he turns into a choke artist once he gets to campus?
Because again the bottom line should be who gives us the best chance to win games. Come 2020 when it's all said and done he will clearly be the better of the 3 or 4 QBs, but not necessarily from game one. It's pretty likely that Ramsey/Park/Whoever will give us the best chance to win very early in '16. Stafford was atrocious the first half of 06 until the light came on.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:10 am to WG_Dawg
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It is pretty unlikely he'll stay here for 5 years
He probably won't stay for his fourth if he even starts for one season. Mark Sanchez went in the first round after one mediocre season starting. By all accounts this Eason kid is the real deal. Assuming he doesn't pull a Da'rick move and bail before signing, we have him for three seasons. Sitting him for a whole year would be a little stupid.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:13 am to SneakyWaff1es
Agree, even if we don't redshirt him what are the odds he even stays for his senior year? If he's projected as a top 5 pick after his junior year, odds are he's outta here. Redshirting him just wouldn't make a lick of sense.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:32 am to dallasga6
It obviously depends on how good Eason really is and how fast he matures/develops as a QB. Richt learned a lesson about not playing talented Freshmen with Moreno but the QB position is a whole other level of demanding performance.
I pretty much see it the way Choo does. Eason is either developed enough to start or not. If he is, then play him. If not, then he should red-shirt. Right now we have 3 healthy QB's who should know the playbook but with limited experience. That should be good enough to give Eason time to develop.
I pretty much see it the way Choo does. Eason is either developed enough to start or not. If he is, then play him. If not, then he should red-shirt. Right now we have 3 healthy QB's who should know the playbook but with limited experience. That should be good enough to give Eason time to develop.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:39 am to davesdawgs
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Eason is either developed enough to start or not. If he is, then play him. If not, then he should red-shirt
It is so, so much more intricate than that. It's not black and white. Chances are really good that he won't be ready from game one snap one. Chance are by UF he just might be. It shouldn't be an either/or...you play him when he's ready. The question is how long will that be? He's not going to get any more ready by sitting on the bench all season.
We don't go 11-2 and finish #2 in 2007 if stafford had redshirted in 2006. The reason he was as good as he was in 07/08 is because he got that in game experience in 2006. He was dreadful to begin with, which is expected for a TFr. Towards the end he was very solid. Hopefully we don't have a bunch of QBs go down and force eason to play early like stafford did, but there's no reason why we can't ease him into the game gradually throughotu the year until he's ready to take over.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:35 am to WG_Dawg
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It is so, so much more intricate than that. It's not black and white.
Well, the decision to red-shirt him is: you either do or you don't.
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The question is how long will that be? He's not going to get any more ready by sitting on the bench all season.
Disagree here. Working with the other QB's and receivers, seeing the game time experience and learning the plays should benefit him greatly in preparation for a starting role even in a red-shirt capacity. Possibly better than pushing him out on the field before he is ready. QB confidence can be a fragile entity. Regardless, Richt has a ton experience in preparing QB's and Shottenheimer will no doubt have insight so I trust that they will make a sound decision.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 2:14 pm to davesdawgs
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:47 pm to bulldawger
I'm sure that Harbaugh will put most of his effort into recruiting players he has a better chance of landing. It's extremely unlikely that anything will blow up at UGA but if it did, Eason would likely have Michigan as a fallback.
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