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re: Does anyone realistically expect Eason to take the starters spot in '16???
Posted on 4/4/15 at 8:32 pm to Jefferson Dawg
Posted on 4/4/15 at 8:32 pm to Jefferson Dawg
That would be your area of expertise, dawg.
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Posted on 4/4/15 at 8:34 pm to dallasga6
Keen observation. The bottom line is we have 3 QB's for this season that could be really good if given the snaps (Bauta, Park and Ramsey) and a potential superstar next year in Eason. I'm a little surprised these new kids would come to our program as we have a ton of QB talent as is. It's a good problem to have....but I'd rather be overloaded with talent on OL or DL than QB at this point. I don't see any of them really being flops is given the opportunity to work within the system. How good would Shockley have been given 3 years as a starter?
I know these kids all think they're going to earn the spot but somebody will be left out. With this many potential starters it is certain to create some issues.
I know these kids all think they're going to earn the spot but somebody will be left out. With this many potential starters it is certain to create some issues.
This post was edited on 4/4/15 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 4/4/15 at 8:37 pm to dallasga6
People forget Joe Cox was also an Elite 11 quarterback and the Cox-Stafford vs Ramsey-Eason comparison is prolly a pretty good one
Posted on 4/4/15 at 9:08 pm to Chris_topher
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the Cox-Stafford vs Ramsey-Eason comparison is prolly a pretty good one
Yeah, except it wasn't really Cox vs Stafford. It was JT3 vs Stafford and neither of them had any starting experience going into the year (unless you count JT3 vs Florida in 2005). Cox was in the mix and they gave him a shot, but everybody knew that Stafford was an inevitability just based on potential.
In the current scenario, whomever Eason is competing against next year is going to have a full season in the lights under his belt and that could create an issue with getting him on the field as a frosh.
The playing field in 2006 was far more equal.
Posted on 4/4/15 at 9:51 pm to S1C EM
But this year's initial starter might not, due to injury or performance, start the whole year. Sometimes a team will have a whole year of mediocre QB play that open doors for others.
It's fortunate that our first game is very easy and our second perhaps easy also. Those opponents give the coaches more time to choose the starter
It's fortunate that our first game is very easy and our second perhaps easy also. Those opponents give the coaches more time to choose the starter
Posted on 4/5/15 at 7:46 am to dallasga6
The thing is, I could see us getting by with 10 wins and NOT with great qb play. With how good I expect the defense to be and an EXTREMELY stout running game, we don't have to have any of the guys under center to have great seasons for us to win 10. Just don't turn the ball over. So realistically, yes, I could see Eason playing a heavy amount and even starting if no other qb is impressive enough to keep him at 2nd string.
Posted on 4/5/15 at 7:51 am to SquatchDawg
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I'm a little surprised these new kids would come to our program as we have a ton of QB talent as is.
I disagree with this. I don't think we have a ton of QB talent here, especially not enough for Eason to consider going somewhere else (solely because of the competition). Other than Michigan, every place Eason is going to look will make him compete for the starting job and I think he knows that. Most top programs around the country bring in a high 3*, 4*, or 5* QB every year. I mean look at Ohio St. We have no where near that much talent right now.
Posted on 4/5/15 at 9:21 am to Dawgsontop34
For 2016 he's either going to have to unthrone an incoming redshirt junior who will have a lot of playing time and experience in the system OR a true sophomore who beat the aforementioned guy....and this isn't even including Bauta.
Unless these guys are mediocre at best Eason is going to have to be a beast to overcome his lack of experience to beat either of these guys. I guess they both could flop and leave the door open but I doubt it and hope that doesn't happen. We DO NOT need a true freshman at the helm in 2016 for Chubb's last year.
Unless these guys are mediocre at best Eason is going to have to be a beast to overcome his lack of experience to beat either of these guys. I guess they both could flop and leave the door open but I doubt it and hope that doesn't happen. We DO NOT need a true freshman at the helm in 2016 for Chubb's last year.
Posted on 4/5/15 at 9:44 am to Chris_topher
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Was Murray a 5 star?
Yes
Posted on 4/5/15 at 9:56 am to VADawg
Whomever doesn't start between Ramsey and Park will likely transfer, IMO.
Bauta seems like he will stay no matter what.
I could easily see the scenario where Ramsey gets the start, Park transfers somewhere else, we have a very run-heavy season and Ramsey ends up being good but not great, maybe even getting injured so Bauta has to finish the season, and then Eason starts next year.
I can also picture the scenario where it's flip-flopped and Park stays and Ramsey goes. Which might even be more likely after watching Ramsey's interviews. He doesn't sound like he's bought in 100% like Park does.
Bauta seems like he will stay no matter what.
I could easily see the scenario where Ramsey gets the start, Park transfers somewhere else, we have a very run-heavy season and Ramsey ends up being good but not great, maybe even getting injured so Bauta has to finish the season, and then Eason starts next year.
I can also picture the scenario where it's flip-flopped and Park stays and Ramsey goes. Which might even be more likely after watching Ramsey's interviews. He doesn't sound like he's bought in 100% like Park does.
Posted on 4/5/15 at 11:55 am to dallasga6
He's going to redshirt no matter what I think and he should.
Posted on 4/5/15 at 1:12 pm to athenslife101
After making the mistake of redshirting an exceptional talent such as Moreno I don't think Richt will make the same error with Eason.
It would be pointless to redshirt Eason because it's extremely unlikely that he will be in college as a senior. Even if Eason doesn't start in 2016 he might get into games for mop up duty at times and then have 2017 & 2018 as the starter.
Eason might not start in 2016 but he is almost a lock to start in 2017 in which case the 2016 starter will face enormous pressure for fear of losing the position in 2017.
The next few years are going to be interesting.
It would be pointless to redshirt Eason because it's extremely unlikely that he will be in college as a senior. Even if Eason doesn't start in 2016 he might get into games for mop up duty at times and then have 2017 & 2018 as the starter.
Eason might not start in 2016 but he is almost a lock to start in 2017 in which case the 2016 starter will face enormous pressure for fear of losing the position in 2017.
The next few years are going to be interesting.
Posted on 4/5/15 at 2:41 pm to Chris_topher
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Was Murray a 5 star?
Murray was a 5 star and ~#11 overall recruit that year if I recall correctly.
Posted on 4/5/15 at 2:54 pm to Whiznot
I would argue that RB's have a limited number of carries in them and putting their talent in the field ASAP benefits everyone. QB's have a bigger learning curve and aren't as susceptible to career ending injuries and could benefit from taking a year to learn the system before flipping the switch in their eligibility.
Not saying he'll see things the same way...just think it's a different animal for QB's.
Not saying he'll see things the same way...just think it's a different animal for QB's.
This post was edited on 4/5/15 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 4/5/15 at 3:33 pm to SquatchDawg
BOTTOM LINE
Ramsey will start
Park will not transfer
Eason will redshirt
Ramsey will start
Park will not transfer
Eason will redshirt
Posted on 4/5/15 at 3:58 pm to Chris_topher
Chris, what are you hearing about JJ Green this Spring?
Posted on 4/5/15 at 4:25 pm to Chris_topher
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Park will not transfer
J-Park to alabama state or some other hbc
Posted on 4/5/15 at 6:06 pm to deeprig9
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Chris, what are you hearing about JJ Green this Spring?
He talked about wanting to play with Justin Thomas -- not much info from the A-backs
The big news has been Jabari Hunt Days.
Thanks for asking
This post was edited on 4/5/15 at 6:07 pm
Posted on 4/5/15 at 6:46 pm to dallasga6
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Next year ain't gonna be like a Stafford fighting for playing time over JT3 & Joe Cox... Brice & Park are both Elite 11 QB's in their own right...
Just for the record, JT3 was a 4* and the 10th ranked QB in America coming out of HS. Obviously he was never destined to be an All American or anything, but it's not like he was just some walkon off the street. And he was a 5th year senior in 2006.
The bottom line is we should play whoever gives us the best chance to WIN ballgames. Period. For all we know, whoever starts this year could just pull a Buck and hand it off to our RBs every game and hit a nice pass or two and get us to 10 wins. Just because we may be a successful TEAM this year doesn't mean that the starter should be grandfathered in for 2016. There is no doubt Eason will be the most talented with the most potential and upside on the roster from the second he gets on campus. It will really all boil down to how quickly he rises to the top (assuming he does, of course).
In big time football it would be nearly impossible for him to step in and be an all star in game 1. We don't need to throw him to the wolves, especially since somebody will already have a year of experience. But we're not in the feelings business, we need to play the best. If and when Eason gives us the best chance to win, he should be starting. Whether it's game 2 or game 10.
Posted on 4/5/15 at 6:53 pm to SquatchDawg
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Unless these guys are mediocre at best Eason is going to have to be a beast to overcome his lack of experience to beat either of these guys. I guess they both could flop and leave the door open but I doubt it and hope that doesn't happen.
You're implying that the only 2 outcomes are the starter this year will either be really badass or a flop. They could end up being "pretty good" and still be unseated. The issue isn't talent, as Eason could possibly be more talented right this minute than any QB on our roster. It's how quickly he can pick up the college game. Obviously somebody will have roughly 13ish games head start on him, but that doesn't necessarily guarantee them anything.
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We DO NOT need a true freshman at the helm in 2016 for Chubb's last year.
We also don't need to play an upperclassman simply because they were born earlier. You play the best player. We all wondered when we'd get another back as good as moreno, we got one better 4 years later. Then we wondered what we'd do without him, and lo and behold we've got his replacement and found him before he even left campus. We havne't even seen Sony's full potential yet. We haven't even seen Turman period. I'm not worried about our RB situation.
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