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re: Coaching Changes Discussion - Chief locked up, what about rest?

Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:16 pm to
Posted by cardboardboxer
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:16 pm to
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That said, he isn't the only fish in the sea. Let's assume he's the best available, but he goes somewhere else. If we merely get a good DC, or even a DECENT DC, that will make an enormous difference. And with names like Venables, Narduzzi, Foster, even Randy Shannon floating around, we aren't SOL if Muschamp doesn't come to Aggieland.


I agree 100% he isn't the only option. He might not even be the best option, I think he is a little overrated.

With that said, I am ready for some positivity in Aggieland. I am ready for some sunshine. 59-0 put the entire community into a funk that can only be broken by a big DC hire and a highly ranked NSD class.

We get Boom, and in an instant the mood in CS will turn on a dime. Suddenly everyone will have real hope in Sumlin's regime again and the environment next season will be really exciting. I think at that point we could count on of the big uncommitteds to come our direction, as who wouldn't want to be part of the fun?

Meanwhile, if Auburn or USC gets Boom and we get someone else then the mood will be negative all offseason because we got our second choice while a team we play next season got our first choice. It doesn't matter if we still get a good or decent couch, Sumlin's regime so far is based on hype- the ultimate fake it till you make it- and such a rejection will certainly hurt Aggie fan confidence across the board. That is a environment we don't want the first season of our finished stadium.
Posted by Projectpat
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:18 pm to
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59-0 put the entire community into a funk that can only be broken by a big DC hire and a highly ranked NSD class.


Let's just gloss over that whole upsetting the #3 team on the road thing
Posted by cardboardboxer
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:18 pm to
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I've never seen BAS so personified



You need to meet my wife then.
Posted by Projectpat
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:22 pm to
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You need to meet my wife then.


Posted by WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:22 pm to
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You need to meet my wife then.


Not sure how to take this.
Posted by Mirthomatic
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:30 pm to
All of that happened before our first game in the SEC, and before we started dominating the state of Texas in recruiting.

Fran was trying to replace a DC during the height of Mack Brown's reign at UTx (the 2005 championship year), and coming off his second losing season in three years. We looked for all the world to be destined to a prolonged role as second fiddle to the horns (that turned out to be the case).

Regarding Joe Kines, the story goes that Sherman hired Kines because his first hire, Reggie Herring, jumped ship when he saw just how little defensive talent Fran had left in the cupboard. That isn't going to happen with this hire. We have some holes, but we have some bona fide superstars either on campus (Garrett) or on the way (Daylon Mack). From a pure talent standpoint, only Bama will have an edge on us.

And it's already been explained that a closed wallet was the reason Narduzzi didn't come.

The point is, things have changed. History is not a straight line. The King of England can rule the 13 American colonies for generations, but once the feisty New Worlders decide to tell George III to screw himself, and strike out on their own, all bets are off.
Posted by Mirthomatic
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:40 pm to
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Meanwhile, if Auburn or USC gets Boom and we get someone else then the mood will be negative all offseason because we got our second choice while a team we play next season got our first choice. It doesn't matter if we still get a good or decent couch, Sumlin's regime so far is based on hype- the ultimate fake it till you make it- and such a rejection will certainly hurt Aggie fan confidence across the board. That is a environment we don't want the first season of our finished stadium.


I would submit that anyone who follows college football close enough to get excited or depressed over getting/losing Muschamp will be at the very least hopeful if we land someone like Venables, Narduzzi, Foster etc. Every one of them has an impressive resume. Every one of them will be able to keep our current defensive class together. All guys like Daylon Mack want is to be assured that the DC knows what he's doing. For all the other big name candidates, that's an easy case to prove.

And once we start seeing defensive improvement on the field, I think no one will give a damn if Muschamp was our first choice.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:44 pm to
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I would submit that anyone who follows college football close enough to get excited or depressed over getting/losing Muschamp will be at the very least hopeful if we land someone like Venables, Narduzzi, Foster etc.


Maybe, as long as Boom doesn't go to another SEC team over us.

Best case if not us is he stays out of coaching for a year, or goes to a Michigan.
Posted by cardboardboxer
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:59 pm to
Agreed on all points, but especially

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The point is, things have changed. History is not a straight line. The King of England can rule the 13 American colonies for generations, but once the feisty New Worlders decide to tell George III to screw himself, and strike out on their own, all bets are off.


Damn, man, I love this post. A&M = 'Merica. Hell yeah!

Still want Boom, though.
Posted by Warrior Poet
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:06 pm to
Apparently South Carolina has reached out to Bo Pelini.

Might be good news on the Boom front?
Posted by Warrior Poet
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:07 pm to
The one person who has hardly been brought up at all is Narduzzi, which somehow makes me think he's already packing his shite
Posted by greenbastard
Parts Unkown
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:24 pm to
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Apparently South Carolina has reached out to Bo Pelini.


Bo Pelini will be a HC at another D1 school next year. He is too good of a coach and NU didn't realize they let go of a miracle worker.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:28 pm to
What about Mattison now that Hoke is gone?
Posted by greenbastard
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:30 pm to
Could be a possibility. I would definitely bring him in for an interview just in case Boom, Narduzzi, and Venables talks fall through.
Posted by greenbastard
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:33 pm to
As far as Bo Pelini, call me crazy, but Iowa State should make a serious run at him (that is if Texas allows them to hire him).

He could be the guy that finally builds a solid foundation for a program that should be the one getting the axe like UAB is.
This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 3:38 pm
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:39 pm to
I'd be pretty surprised if Pelini is coaching anywhere next year. He seems a prime candidate to take a year off. He's had way too much success as a HC to take a coordinator position right off the bat and will wait to see if he's in line for a HC job.

He's a bit different from Muschamp in that regard because I do think someone like ISU should hire him. I'm just not sure he'll want to settle on ISU or a similar gig that would take a chance on him this year.
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:44 pm to
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As far as Bo Pelini, call me crazy, but Iowa State should make a serious run at him


I don't think that's crazy at all. ISU would be lucky to have him, and a HC job at a school that obviously needs a lot of help might be irresistable to somebody like Pelini.

And that creates another opening for our DC that I'd like, or at least not hate. Paul Rhoads is the same sort of insane that Boom is and has experience as a DC.
Posted by Houston Summit
Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2012
1995 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:47 pm to
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What about Mattison now that Hoke is gone?

I would support this. He even has ties to A&M back in the early 90's Wrecking Crew days, so all the good ol boy ags would be satisfied as well
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:51 pm to
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The one person who has hardly been brought up at all is Narduzzi

I think the reason is that 3 years ago he wasn't a hot name. He was a Dantonio protege (as was Snyder fyi) and he had had his struggles early on at Mich State as they transitioned. Sumlin called him as he was just emerging as a trendy name in 2012. There was reason for him to move then to get out from Dantonio's shadow and to get better exposure for himself.

Since then MSU has been tremendous, particularly on defense, and people know who he is. He's widely rumored for a number of head jobs. There's almost no chance he's moving to a lateral job. It really does nothing to benefit him as his next job is almost certainly going to be a head coaching position.
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