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re: Florida closes with seven 4 stars and finishes with a top 10 class

Posted on 2/1/17 at 9:12 pm to
Posted by TDFreak
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 9:12 pm to
I say we extend an offer to Valentine and leapfrog LSU in the rankings.
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 9:27 pm to
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Florida finished with the 5th best class in the SEC. That is unacceptable, and simply wont get it done. I know you will deny it, but deep down you know it is true.
Our class is there with Auburn's, and I don't think our class is that much worse than LSU's.

This is a good enough class to compete with any team in the conference besides Bama. The narrative that's been spewed the past few weeks is that Georgia's going to be so overwhelmingly more talented than UF that UF won't be able to compete, which we can now see is bullshite.

I'd like to see top five classes as well but the sky isn't falling.
Posted by Leon S Kennedy
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 9:43 pm to
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This is a good enough class to compete with any team in the conference besides Bama. The narrative that's been spewed the past few weeks is that Georgia's going to be so overwhelmingly more talented than UF that UF won't be able to compete, which we can now see is bullshite.



Your class is still a whole 50 points behind UGA's class with way less top 150 players. Please keep doing that for the next 3 or 4 years.
This post was edited on 2/1/17 at 9:45 pm
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 10:21 pm to
UF has been behind UGA in recruiting but come NFL draft day and WLOCP day the Gators come out on top.
Posted by Leon S Kennedy
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 2/2/17 at 1:04 am to
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UF has been behind UGA in recruiting but come NFL draft day and WLOCP day the Gators come out on top.



UF has never been this behind UGA in recruiting by this much and most times they are ahead. Zook, Meyer and Muschamp were all great recruiteres Keep holding on to the past and praying Smart can't coach. We already know know he can recruit better than Tartar Mouth!

Also Florida only leads by 1 player in the NFL while UGA had highest number of top 100 players in the NFL so yeah they are basically even there.

It's all good though as Butter Teeth is going to slowly drag your talent level down starting your disappointing 2017 season. Look at criminals you signed this year that no one else would touch. Shows the desperation in Gainesville.
This post was edited on 2/2/17 at 1:10 am
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 2/2/17 at 1:57 am to
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Shows the desperation in Gainesville.


Yeah, winning the East has been really unsettling, idiot.
Posted by Leon S Kennedy
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 2/2/17 at 4:13 am to
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Yeah, winning the East has been really unsettling, idiot.



Winning the just to get trampled by Bama is not much an accomplishment. Let's see how Butter Mouth does as Muschamp's recruits cycle out.

You would trade your last two classes for UGA's in a heartbeat. You clowns are just praying Smart can't coach. Otherwise it lights out for the rest of East. That is a fact. And please say he can't coach now so I can laugh at yo. We all now the 2nd season is when teams should really show major improvement under a new coach.
This post was edited on 2/2/17 at 4:16 am
Posted by atlgator
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 2/2/17 at 6:37 am to
You must be really worried about Mac to keep calling him names and trying to downplay his coaching ability.

Kirby can recruit but he has on field coaching ability similar to Butch Jones and Will Muschamp. So congrats on those recruiting rankings and enjoy looking up to Florida in the east standings every year, like it's been for the last 30 years
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 2/2/17 at 7:08 am to
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UF has been behind UGA in recruiting

That's not true.
Posted by Edearl Watson
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Posted on 2/2/17 at 7:25 am to
Kirby lost to Vandy at home. That should never happen. I think UGA out recruits Vandy by quite a large margin.
Posted by Edearl Watson
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Posted on 2/2/17 at 7:25 am to
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This post was edited on 2/2/17 at 7:48 am
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 2/2/17 at 8:11 am to
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James Robinson



Wow
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/2/17 at 8:49 am to
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UF has been behind UGA in recruiting

That's not true.


Sssshhh...it doesn't fit their narrative right now. Just let them have this.
Posted by GeorgiaBoy
Member since Sep 2013
1982 posts
Posted on 2/2/17 at 9:39 am to
Florida lost to Georgia Southern at home. What's your point?
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 2/2/17 at 10:09 am to
Amazing finish to what could have been a total disaster. Still a ways to go to catch up to the upper echelon of the conference right now, in terms of talent on paper, and to FSU.

If we are being 100% objective and honest.

99% of Florida fans went to bed happy about this class though, that is for sure.


Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 2/2/17 at 10:17 am to
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Florida lost to Georgia Southern at home. What's your point?


Muschamp is not McElwain.

Kirby is like Muschamp.

Never ran a program, can recruit really well, but doesn't seem to be put together when coaching and have it transfer to the field.

Georgia recruits amazingly no matter who is the head coach, but Georgia didn't need another guy to maintain the 9 win season, they needed someone to push it over, and there's way too much talent on that team to get absolutely glazed by Florida who doesn't even have an offense.

If McElwain gets an offense, we can be confident he will outcoach Kirby, just like he's going to do with Muschamp and even Butch.
This post was edited on 2/2/17 at 10:20 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 2/2/17 at 10:25 am to
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Muschamp is not McElwain.

Kirby is like Muschamp.


kirby lost to a 6 win vandy team in his first year as a head coach. Muschamp lost to a 1AA school in his 3rd year as a head coach.

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Never run a program, can recruit really well, but doesn't seem to be put together when coaching.


Richt was a career coordinator and had never run a program either but he did just fine early on. Muschamp did mediocre his first year. So did richt. So did kirby. There's no way to say kirby is like muschamp with only 1 year of data to go on.

As far as recruiting, that's the big difference. UGA has never recruited this well in our history. In all his years at UF, mushcamp never put together a class as good as kirby just did in his first full year.

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Georgia recruits amazingly no matter who is the head coach


I'm not sure why people continue to keep their head in the sand and keep regurgitating this inaccuracy. UGA always recruits "well". Under Richt we would typically bring in a top 10 class. Problem is that it'd typically be good for 4th or 5th in our own conference, and usually 2nd in our own division. We have NEVER put a class together like the one we just did. So no, this is not the same as we've always recruited.

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Georgia didn't need another guy to maintain the 9 win season, they needed someone to push it over, and there's way too much talent on that team to get absolutely glazed by Florida who doesn't even have an offense.


It's year 1 FFS. Richt lost to SC and Boston college his first year then went 13-1 the next. Meyer was decent his first year then won a title the next. Saban lost 7 games first year at bama then started the next year 12-0. Year 1 at a school is entirely irrelevant when it comes to a coach's future. The fact we lost to UF last year has more to do with how bad we were, not how awesome UF was. The issue for UF fans should be that yall seemingly aren't getting much better (if at all), while we are absolutely stocking up.

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If McElwain gets an offense, we can be confident he will outcoach Kirby,


First of all, he hasn't had an offense since he's been in gainesville so that's a pretty big qualifier. AU has been talking about how great they'll be "if only they had a QB" for years now. And again, you absolutely cannot say after 1 year of data what kind of coach kirby is going to be.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 2/2/17 at 10:26 am to
Mac's a good coach. Yesterday was a great day, but he still could improve as a recruiter. I'm not totally sure what the issue is. I think there's some disconnect in his timeline of when you evaluate a player and when it's time to pull the trigger on the offer. Seems like he might be getting to the party late on some of these guys. I don't know what the answer is. Maybe he needs some support staff guys that are there for nothing but evaluating HS talent.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 2/2/17 at 10:30 am to
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UF has been behind UGA in recruiting

That's not true.


Sssshhh...it doesn't fit their narrative right now. Just let them have this.


ALABAMA. Average rank over past five years: 1st. ...
LSU. Average rank: 7th. ...
GEORGIA. Average rank: 8th. ...
AUBURN. Average rank: 9th. ...
FLORIDA. Average rank: 10th. ...

Butthurt Georgia fans can go ahead and bounce now.

Georgia's average rank over the past 5 years has been higher than Florida's. He inherited a way better team than McElwain and still lost terribly.

Here's to your reincarnation of Muschamp.
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 2/2/17 at 10:39 am to
Here is what I do know. McElwain is 2-0 against UGA and those games haven't even been close.

And that was with the worst offense in the conference, ravaged by the poor recruiting of the past regime.

I like it though, everyone pick Georgia. UF will be lying in the weeds again, playing the uno respect card, and winning the east again.
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