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re: Will SEC defensive coordinators figure out how to stop AU's offense this year?
Posted on 6/1/14 at 12:58 pm to Stonehog
Posted on 6/1/14 at 12:58 pm to Stonehog
quote:Auburn lost their best player on defense, Dee Ford, and another player that wasn't near considered best, Chris Davis. Auburn's defensive line is easily the deepest on the team with Carl Lawson, Gabe Wright, DeVonte Lambert, Elijah Daniel and others playing defensive end - therefore, Dee Ford is hard to replace, but it is possible. Chris Davis was an average cornerback, nothing more. He wasn't even drafted.
Where did I say that?
The reason I don't think your defense improves is because you lost your best players on defense. People think A&M's offense will take a dip this year because they lost Manziel and Evans. It's really not that crazy to think that Auburn's defense could regress after losing Ford and Davis.
Texas A&M lost Johnny Manziel, Jake Matthews and Mike Evans - all 1st round picks.
The comparison is bad...
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:24 pm to TTsTowel
Dee Ford gone and now Lawson. Chris Davis might have been average but face it,he was the best you had last year. I keep reading about all these NFL WR's in this thread, now you boys got all over Kiffin for saying something like that. WHO are these WR's? And what NFL team would they start for? Such a silly thing to say,the posters should be banned for it.
See how it is when the tables are turned? Ordinarily I could care less about your bragging but
I am just pointing out the hypocrisy.
See how it is when the tables are turned? Ordinarily I could care less about your bragging but
I am just pointing out the hypocrisy.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:31 pm to antibarner
quote:Carl Lawson being gone is speculation by everybody. Nobody knows what is going on with him.
Dee Ford gone and now Lawson.
quote:No, he wasn't. He was an incredible return man, but as a cornerback in our defense, he was "meh".
Chris Davis might have been average but face it,he was the best you had last year
quote:Ask someone that commented on it and said the above.
I keep reading about all these NFL WR's in this thread, now you boys got all over Kiffin for saying something like that. WHO are these WR's? And what NFL team would they start for?
quote:What?
the posters should be banned for it.
quote:Hypocrisy? Is that what you call it?
See how it is when the tables are turned? Ordinarily I could care less about your bragging but
I am just pointing out the hypocrisy.
You mean the LSU fans talking about Auburn wide receivers?
This was the only Auburn fan post about wide receivers:
quote:So, again, where was this talk about Auburn wide receivers starting for NFL teams? It looks like you completely made that up since it didn't come from anything in this thread.
If you have followed Gus's career, you would see that he has not run the same Offense two years in a row. That will be the case this year, with more weapons at WR and more comfort by Marshall. I think AU Offense will be harder to stop this year.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:38 pm to antibarner
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Dee Ford gone and now Lawson. Chris Davis might have been average but face it,he was the best you had last year. I keep reading about all these NFL WR's in this thread, now you boys got all over Kiffin for saying something like that. WHO are these WR's? And what NFL team would they start for? Such a silly thing to say,the posters should be banned for it.
See how it is when the tables are turned? Ordinarily I could care less about your bragging but
I am just pointing out the hypocrisy.
The play at LB exposed the secondary last year. Davis was the best corner by the end of the year, but at times he was picked on. AU did not have any depth at Safety last year and had to play some undersized converted corners. AU has some quality in the secondary now to go along with depth. Dee Ford was AUs best player, but C. J.Mosely was Bama's. All we hear from them is how great the D will be this year, even with that same secondary.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:39 pm to Irons Puppet
But it's not the same secondary.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:39 pm to cardboardboxer
Chex Mix and AubieAlumdvm. Mix stated Auburn had NFL talent at WR and the Alum agreed with him. In this thread.
Now TT this is no different than what Kiffin said about the Alabama RB's. Not one bit.And Kiffin is a hell of a lot more qualified to say it.
Talk in here about Duke too.Duke hasn't played a down at AU. Holding you to the same standard you are holding Kiffin, saying anything about someone that hasn't done anything is just awful.
Now TT this is no different than what Kiffin said about the Alabama RB's. Not one bit.And Kiffin is a hell of a lot more qualified to say it.
Talk in here about Duke too.Duke hasn't played a down at AU. Holding you to the same standard you are holding Kiffin, saying anything about someone that hasn't done anything is just awful.
This post was edited on 6/1/14 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:42 pm to antibarner
quote:Chex Mix isn't even an Auburn fan to my knowledge. And someone agreed with him, oh no!
Chex Mix and AubieAlumdvm. Mix stated Auburn had NFL talent at WR and the Alum agreed with him.
quote:Every team has NFL talent. Lane Kiffin said that Alabama's group of running backs were better than any team in the NFL. How in the frick is that the same as saying a team has NFL talent?
Now TT this is no different than what Kiffin said about the Alabama RB's
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And Kiffin is a hell of a lot more qualified to say it.
quote:BY LSU FANS.
Talk in here about Duke too.Duke hasn't played a down at AU.
HOLY frick.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:43 pm to antibarner
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Now TT this is no different than what Kiffin said about the Alabama RB's. Not one bit.
So you are comparing "having NFL talent at a certain position" to "Lane Kiffin on Yeldon/Henry/Drake: “There probably aren’t 3 more talented HB in the NFL on a roster""? I see your point. Not any difference at all.
This post was edited on 6/1/14 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:43 pm to TTsTowel
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No, he wasn't. He was an incredible return man, but as a cornerback in our defense, he was "meh".
You only had two all-SEC players on defense, and Davis was one of them. You can tell yourself he sucked, but if he was that bad then he wouldn't have been recognized by the coaches and the AP.
Losing him doesn't make your defense any better.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:45 pm to MrAUTigers
Kiffin said they were as talented. He did NOT say they were better. Get it right Barners you're twisting words. NFL talent is no different than what Kiffin said. If they are so good what team could they play on? See how it is when it is turned back on you?
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:46 pm to Stonehog
quote:Second team?
and Davis was one of them
Take a look at the others in the secondary for that All-SEC team.
quote:Losing two people will somehow cancel out adding so much more?
Losing him doesn't make your defense any better.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:47 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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But it's not the same secondary.
So why will last years backups be better then Saban starters ?
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:47 pm to TTsTowel
You do seem to be holding Alabama and Auburn to two different standards here.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:48 pm to Stonehog
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I'm trying to legitimately discuss your linebacker situation.
But you do know possess the knowledge to have a legitimate discussion on the topic.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:48 pm to CapstoneGrad06
Of course he is. That's what he does.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:48 pm to TTsTowel
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Losing two people will somehow cancel out adding so much more?
You aren't adding much. You only signed two linebackers in this class, a position you guys keep saying is vital to your defense. What else are you adding to the defense?
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:49 pm to Irons Puppet
I expect to give up more big plays because there's lots of youth. But the talent may be better than Milliner/Kirkpatrick. We will just have growing pains like 2010.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:50 pm to CapstoneGrad06
quote:How so? Auburn lost as much as Alabama?
You do seem to be holding Alabama and Auburn to two different standards here.
Have I even commented on Alabama in this thread before now?
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