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re: Will Lying Leo ever play another down at MSU?
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:10 pm to lsufball19
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:10 pm to lsufball19
There is some LSU smoke in the Leo Lewis investigation. Now, no one believes the $650,000 part, but what if it was actually $65,000 instead? If Leo Lewis tells the COI of the specific details of an LSU offer, then it's probably on. Look for an investigation.
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Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:11 pm to Powell
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Now as to the other schools besides Ole Miss that Lewis says committed these violations, they will have a problem
No they won't. Moo State may get a small penalty like reduced in home visits but even that could be a stretch.
You Ole Miss frickers do t get it do you? The NCAA doesn't give a frick about who else paid LL. They were specifically targeting Ole Miss because you lied to them when they were investigating you the first go around. They knew far more than they let own with the first investigation. They just wanted to give Ole Miss the opportunity to come clean, take a minor punishment, and slow down just a little bit so it wasn't so fricking blatant. Instead Ole Miss gave the NCAA the middle finger and dated them to do something about it.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:11 pm to oneusairman
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Ya I suppose you guys didn't pay players in the 80s and early 90s.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:16 pm to Powell
What if I told you that the COI hearing is going to be about the violations committed by Ole Miss and there isn't going to be some type of Matlock moment for you regarding other schools?
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:17 pm to Powell
Why would the COI ask Lewis about his LSU or MSU recruitment? They aren't investigators.
The investigative phase has passed. Why can't you Rebs grasp that?
The investigative phase has passed. Why can't you Rebs grasp that?
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:18 pm to BroomfieldReb
Sucks to suck
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:19 pm to Powell
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Now if he doesn't give a truthful appearance in front of the COI, he most likely has played his last down of NCAA ball
Transcript from COI testimony with Leo Lewis.
COI - "Mr. Lewis - are your statements on record as provided to the NCAA investigation staff truthful to the best of your knowledge?"
Leo - "Yes Sir."
COI - "DO you have any further testimony you wish to provide to this board or place into the record?"
Leo - "No Sir."
COI - "Thank you son. Your assistance to this investigation has been helpful. Go forth in peace and sin no more ... Be well and Prosper ... Thank you for your assistance. You are excused."
momentary pause until Leo and Attorney have left the room.
COI - "Now we will proceed to the penalty phase. This COI is adjourned."
UM - "But ... But"
Hammer to table.
COI - "Adjourned"
COI panel stands as one body, united in responsibility and purpose and look at each other - "Who wants lunch?"
This post was edited on 8/26/17 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:20 pm to RT1941
Don't be naive. The COI has already ordered an investigation into Mississippi State while looking at Ole Miss, so we know they will do that. They don't seem satisfied that the investigation was thorough enough and want to talk to Lewis. Do you actually think if additional details are offered to the COI about violations from another school that they won't turn around and order another investigation again? They have the authority to order an investigation of other programs, they have done it and will again if needed. Right now Mississippi State should be concerned, very concerned. LSU may have something to worry about, we'll see after the COI.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:23 pm to Powell
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There is some LSU smoke in the Leo Lewis investigation. Now, no one believes the $650,000 part, but what if it was actually $65,000 instead? If Leo Lewis tells the COI of the specific details of an LSU offer, then it's probably on. Look for an investigation.
Lewis never said anything about LSU
y'all are reaching for straws now. When are you going to stop listening to your mods and realize that all of this, as far as the NCAA is concerned, begins and ends with Ole Miss. Just step back and think about this logically. What benefit would Lewis have testifying honestly if they're going to open an investigation on his school if he does? It makes the immunity the gave him and any immunity going forward worthless.
And btw, there is no transcript available to outside parties. So stop giving any articles referencing one any credibility. If they do have access to the transcript then Ole Miss broke another NCAA rule by leaking it.
This post was edited on 8/26/17 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:35 pm to lsufball19
"Lewis never said anything about LSU"
Look again. The COI was presented with material naming LSU. If they ask Leo Lewis about it and he verifies a violation, it could cause them to look further. Of course, I don't think Leo Lewis will attend the COI and it'll all be thrown out. LSU will have no concerns and State will get off. The self-imposed penalties will be applied to Ole Miss and everyone will move on. Most all of basis for the LOIC will be thrown out and replaced with "failure to monitor."
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:35 pm to Powell
Your complete ignorance of how this process works is absolutely mind boggling. The COI is the judge panel. They are not going to tell the NCAA to go investigate MSU or LSU. The NCAA's investigative team investigated Leo's claim of MSU paying him on their own. They did not do it because the COI told them to. You don't know what you are talking about. Leo Lewis is going to go in there and answer questions that the COI has about his recruitment pertaining to Ole Miss. He is not going to be asked questions regarding MSU or LSU or anyone else. Are you really that naive? Who is telling you this garbage? Get away from them because they are making you look like an idiot.
This post was edited on 8/26/17 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:35 pm to Powell
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A big one. Apparently, the COI is extremely interested in the part about the payment from Mississippi State and they may be looking for specific information in order to reopen the investigation
Damn you people are really really dumb.
The COI doesn't investigate. As much as you and your hero think OM is on offense in these proceedings, they are not.
Tick-tock
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:37 pm to Powell
I'm calling bullshite here. The Ole Miss Administration will appear before the COI for the 3rd (THIRD) time in less than 2 years, they will have 3 programs on probation simultaneously........The COI will stick to the script because they have 2-3 days to wade through the numerous allegation list on the docket. They will not pull Lewis or any of the other + 4 dozen SA's named in those NOAs to ask questions about their recruitment with other programs.
The appearance before the COI is not the time or place for questioning and digging for info about any other program. It's just not.
The appearance before the COI is not the time or place for questioning and digging for info about any other program. It's just not.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:38 pm to Powell
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The COI was presented with material naming LSU.
You referring to these elusive transcripts again? And even if you are to assume someone leaked the transcripts (another violation by Ole Miss), it was his mother that mentioned LSU, not Lewis. The NCAA did not find her credible so I don't know what you think the NCAA is going to pursue there. And the COI is not an investigatory body.
This post was edited on 8/26/17 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:41 pm to Rebel
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The COI doesn't investigate. As much as you and your hero think OM is on offense in these proceedings, they are not.
For some reason a lot of Ole Miss fans think they're going to bring everyone down with them. Hate to break it to them but it's not going to happen
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:41 pm to Powell
COI does not order investigations. The fact that you think they do shows how far removed from reality you live.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:42 pm to Powell
Quit "thinking" Powell. The investigators caught your Administration dead to rights, your people lied, cheated while on probation, you had coaches a Asst ADs lying, circumventing and down right avoiding your own Compliance people multiple times.
Now add in the other two programs on probation and serving sanctions and try to explain how the Institution known as Ole Miss was "in control" of anything regarding athletics?
Now add in the other two programs on probation and serving sanctions and try to explain how the Institution known as Ole Miss was "in control" of anything regarding athletics?
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:43 pm to Powell
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They might want to look at LSU too.
Lewis didn't say he got money from LSU. That was supposedly his mother on the phone with Ole Miss trying to negotiate for money. It wouldn't be surprising if she lied about other schools offering money to get Ole Miss to pony up, or pony up more. Also, didn't the NCAA's response already basically say they don't find her credible?
Posted on 8/26/17 at 1:03 pm to RT1941
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Quit "thinking" Powell. The investigators caught your Administration dead to rights, your people lied, cheated while on probation, you had coaches a Asst ADs lying, circumventing and down right avoiding your own Compliance people multiple times. Now add in the other two programs on probation and serving sanctions and try to explain how the Institution known as Ole Miss was "in control" of anything regarding athletics?
Spot on.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 1:04 pm to Rebel
Indeed they can. I think Godfrey is right. "If Lewis attends the COI, he could be asked about receiving benefits from the second, redacted school, the one Ole Miss counsel claims is Mississippi State. Therefore, Lewis could be asked questions that potentially harm his team, because while Lewis has immunity, Mississippi State does not.
If Lewis declines to attend, he could lose his limited immunity status at the discretion of the COI, not the enforcement staff. Per the NCAA’s Enforcement Internal Operating Procedures:"
If Lewis declines to attend, he could lose his limited immunity status at the discretion of the COI, not the enforcement staff. Per the NCAA’s Enforcement Internal Operating Procedures:"
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