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re: Why so much preseason love for Bama?
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:57 am to Tider03
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:57 am to Tider03
we were close to making it, but the team was not up to the standard of the past few years in terms of overall consistency and performance. As others have said at this point with Saban, if young players step up or if the team plays above themselves consistently, we will be in the mix for the national title.
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:58 am to silverdawg
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Take this all into account and then go play SEC football with your Spanish Armada.
Florida will test the Tide metal like nobody else this year and if Muschamp & company find the chink in the elephants armor that house of cards will fold up like a gypsy circus tent on Sunday.
Alabama may lose its top three coaches this year in an unmatched explosion of media chum or they could dominate.
Bama fans refuse to acknowledge the fact that they are riding into battle this season on a powder keg with a short fuse.
did you have to change your sheets after that dream?
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:00 am to silverdawg
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Kiffin A. has a big fat mouth fact.
Saban is a media control freak fact.
Kirby doesn't take public criticism well fact.
Fact: Your grammar is horrible.
Normally I don't bring it into play, but reading these sentences is akin to having my soul digested by the devil.
Also, fact: You over use the word "fact". That word does not mean what it thinks you mean.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:06 am to skrayper
Fact: skraper has rustled jimmies fact.
Fact: Alabama is a floating powder keg fact.
Fact: this is a silly message board fact.
Fact: Alabama is a floating powder keg fact.
Fact: this is a silly message board fact.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:08 am to coachcrisp
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Wow! I hope you didn't go to all that time and trouble for this thread while you were at work.
Just graduated a week and a half ago. Been battling food poisoning the last 3-4 days and my Bar prep course hasn't started yet. Absolutely nothing else to do.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:38 am to skrayper
Okay, shame point taken and post revised...
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:53 am to MenloDawg
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but was shunned by Bama fans, I simply stated that their offense would struggle against above average defenses because they had a lot of talent to replace on the OL,
Bama fans questioned this for good reason...
2012- 38 ppg
2013- 38 ppg
2012- 37 ppg vs SEC
2013- 38 ppg vs SEC
2012- 32 ppg vs ranked
2013- 37 ppg vs ranked
2012- 445 ypg
2013- 473 ypg
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McCarron was overrated
looks like he did alright
- 3000+ yds passing
- 28tds 7ints
-second in Heisman
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and they did not have the best WRs in the conference.
were one of the best, and that is all that can be definitively argued either way.
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I proceeded to tell my buddy there is no way they escape 2013 w/ less than 2 losses.
The only thing you get correct and it is hearsay
Is this really the best thread you could link in order to pat yourself on the back? If so, you must be very wrong often.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:38 am to bona fide
McCarron and the WRs were 7th in the conference in passing. Ppg they were 4th in the conference and ton of that was attributed to defense/special teams scores. They were 6th in total offense. That's pretty average, slightly above if you give them credit for D/ST points.
Comparing Bama 2013 v. Bama 2012 is worthless.
This doesn't take into account the evolution of the conference as a whole. For instance:
2012: 445 ypg was good for 4th
2013: 473 ypg was only good for 6th
Also, using ppg game alone is an exceedingly weak argument:
2012: 38 ppg w/ only 2 D/ST TDs (1 KO return, 1 INT return)
2013: 38 ppg w/ 7 D/ST TDs (3 INTs, 3 KOs, 1 punt return)
As for the WRs, feel free to maintain that opinion if you'd like, but "delusional" is the word that comes to mind.
As for McCarron's Heisman invite, I've got no explanation other than it being a career appreciation nod. The NFL seems to think that was the case as well.
No back patting, more like showing how comical the responses were.
Yeah, your statistical evidence was so compelling and convincing.
Comparing Bama 2013 v. Bama 2012 is worthless.
This doesn't take into account the evolution of the conference as a whole. For instance:
2012: 445 ypg was good for 4th
2013: 473 ypg was only good for 6th
Also, using ppg game alone is an exceedingly weak argument:
2012: 38 ppg w/ only 2 D/ST TDs (1 KO return, 1 INT return)
2013: 38 ppg w/ 7 D/ST TDs (3 INTs, 3 KOs, 1 punt return)
As for the WRs, feel free to maintain that opinion if you'd like, but "delusional" is the word that comes to mind.
As for McCarron's Heisman invite, I've got no explanation other than it being a career appreciation nod. The NFL seems to think that was the case as well.
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Is this really the best thread you could link in order to pat yourself on the back?
No back patting, more like showing how comical the responses were.
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you must be very wrong often.
Yeah, your statistical evidence was so compelling and convincing.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:41 am to SECdragonmaster
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Seen what he can do in practice?
We talkin bout practice?
Practice?
Not the game?
Practice?
Yes practice.
Greg McElroy. Can Newton. AJ McCarron. Nick Marshall.
They all faired just fine when the bulk of their D1 resume was "practice."
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:47 am to nb200016
I also have a connection to the FSU program, a guy who has seen Coker up close and personal like yourself. He took a different opinion than you though. He stated that his physical tools were freakish at times, but that he's certainly not a sure thing to succeed. We shall see. Keeping up with his performance will be one of the most interesting story lines of next season.
This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 10:48 am
Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:02 am to MenloDawg
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McCarron and the WRs were 7th in the conference in passing. Ppg they were 4th in the conference and ton of that was attributed to defense/special teams scores. They were 6th in total offense. That's pretty average, slightly above if you give them credit for D/ST points.
so basically the same as they were the year before? where is the great decline that was predicted?
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Comparing Bama 2013 v. Bama 2012 is worthless.
Yet it is OK for you to use the 2012vs2013 metric in your next point,
"2012: 445 ypg was good for 4th
2013: 473 ypg was only good for 6th"
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Also, using ppg game alone is an exceedingly weak argument:
I didn't use them alone, I also used ypg
Bama improved offensively from the BCS Title team. Bama regressed on defensive side statistically. You predicted a down year due to offensive woes, you were 100% wrong.
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Yeah, your statistical evidence was so compelling and convincing
Statistically evidence is not needed for this argument, it was very obvious that Bama did not falter due to a much weaker offense. I just threw in a few stats for fun.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:17 am to bona fide
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so basically the same as they were the year before? where is the great decline that was predicted?
Great decline? I said they would struggle with above average Ds. How'd they look against VT, Miss St, and OU? You don't need stats to know they looked atrocious. They got the best of LSU, but a few teams did that last year. Those are the 4 top 20 Ds they faced.
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Yet it is OK for you to use the 2012vs2013 metric in your next point
Not sure if you're serious with this statement.
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You predicted a down year due to offensive woes, you were 100% wrong.
I predicted the offense wouldn't be world beaters like the majority of Bama fans on this board thought. And they weren't. They barely finished in the top half of the conference in total offense. Are you suggesting that the O's inability to run the ball down the opposition's throat when needed or to protect the passer effectively when needed didn't directly contribute to the last two losses?
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it was very obvious that Bama did not falter due to a much weaker offense.
Damn son, you might want to call Saban with that intel and be sure he brings Nuss back. I'm sure he wouldn't have nudged him out the door if the offense was what Saban thought it would be.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:25 am to MenloDawg
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and OU?
600 yards of offense
Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:28 am to TreyAnastasio
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600 yards of offense
Combined with Cyrus losing his 1st rd grade because the pass protection was piss poor. 600 yds of offense, impressive, but ultimately didn't get the job done. It's like the UGA offense v. Clemson to open the year. 500+ total yards if I'm not mistaken, but it was painfully clear that we didn't have the ability to run the ball without a healthy Gurley in the game. You could blame the D, but we knew coming into the year that it was unlikely we would win a game in which Murray failed to throw a single TD pass.
This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 11:29 am
Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:33 am to TreyAnastasio
At this point the arguments on Bama's offense are comical IMO. Bama fans were largely disappointed in its performance starting with Week 1 last season and praised Saban for nudging Nuss out the door. Now there is a whole lot of defending Nuss and that offense.
I wish still had the dunno emoticon
I wish still had the dunno emoticon
Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:36 am to MenloDawg
Because they are easily the most talented team in the country. Period. And the coach is decent.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:37 am to MenloDawg
The thing that's comical in this thread is you and everyone else trying to argue and predict shite that they have no idea how is going to turn out. Bama has had a outstanding offense nearly every single year with Saban. Could be different this year? Of course it can. But it probably won't be. Bama has high preseason expectations every year because we have a good team every year.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:37 am to MenloDawg
We had the best statistical offense in the history of the school. Our offense was fine last year. This thread would be better if you focused on the defense.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:38 am to Patton
Jimmies are quite rustled I see. Relax, it's merely my opinion. 
Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:38 am to MenloDawg
Same logic doesn't seem to apply when sports analysts predict Bama's seasons, sort of like Notre Dame and Michigan.
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