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re: Why no love for Auburn in preseason polls?
Posted on 5/18/12 at 5:09 pm to LA kid but AU fan
Posted on 5/18/12 at 5:09 pm to LA kid but AU fan
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I love Auburn as much as any other Aubie on here, but I don;t see any reason that we should be ranked pre-season. Way too many unknowns.
Beat Clemson in the Ga. Dome... Problem solved, you'll be a top 25 team going into week two...
FWIW, I think y'all will start just outside the top 25 (between 26-30)...
This post was edited on 5/18/12 at 5:11 pm
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Posted on 5/18/12 at 5:16 pm to dallasga6
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Beat Clemson in the Ga. Dome... Problem solved, you'll be a top 25 team going into week two...
FWIW, I think y'all will start just outside the top 25 (between 26-30)...
This
Posted on 5/18/12 at 5:16 pm to dallasga6
People have already stated everything I would have said so no need to regurgitate. Will say, AU will be one of the most interesting teams to watch this year. Honestly can't wait to see what happens.
Posted on 5/18/12 at 5:22 pm to getback
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Why no love for Auburn in preseason polls?
I think it is a product of multiple factors.
1) you are coming off a 5 loss season and all of the losses were of the blowout variety. Had they all been competitive I think you'd be ranked in the high teens/low 20's
2) two new coordinators. I expect your D to be massively improved under BVG, but your O is an unknown.
3) Offensive personnel issues. You lost your best player on O. You are likely (you'd better hope so) starting a player at QB who has never started a game before. That player has a big need for arm improvement (which he may have made in spring/fall). And you have players recruited for Spread and will likely not run a Spread offense. This will be most clear in the O-line in year 1, IMO.
I expect AU will finish the season ranked, but doubt they'll be ranked during the season more than 7-8 weeks of the 13 week season.
(Also, a lot of media still buys the "we are young" line that Chiz has been selling.)
Posted on 5/18/12 at 5:24 pm to thatguy1892
I think it will be a somewhat defining year for Auburn.. Schedule sets up nicely, but what is considered a successful season? 9-4? They should be better in '13, but then the schedule flips.. Guess that's why they play the game.. 
Posted on 5/18/12 at 5:29 pm to bamasgot13
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(Also, a lot of media still buys the "we are young" line that Chiz has been selling.)
Well, we are around 70% underclassmen
Posted on 5/18/12 at 5:33 pm to bamasgot13
quote:I don't see this being that big of a deal. All of these "spread players" were recruited by Bama, UGA, LSU, etc, so they can fit in a pro-style. Plus, we'll still have spread principles, especially early on, so Loeffler can make the conversion easier.
And you have players recruited for Spread and will likely not run a Spread offense. This will be most clear in the O-line in year 1, IMO.
quote:Well, considering we are, the media should buy it. It's the truth, especially if some of the younger players overtake some of the older guys that are penciled in to start (guys like Frost, Westerman, Wright, etc)
(Also, a lot of media still buys the "we are young" line that Chiz has been selling.)
Posted on 5/18/12 at 5:39 pm to bamasgot13
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And you have players recruited for Spread and will likely not run a Spread offense. This will be most clear in the O-line in year 1, IMO.
Nah won't be as big a problem as you are stating, but you did say in your opinion.
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(Also, a lot of media still buys the "we are young" line that Chiz has been selling.)
Not a hard sell when it was the truth, but OK. BTW it is sentences like that one that ruin some of your posts for me. You are better than that. And yes you were being condescending by the way you wrote it. It's cool you will always be a gump at the end of the day right friend?
ETA: Dang you AMM
This post was edited on 5/18/12 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 5/18/12 at 5:44 pm to AMM AU9893
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Well, we are around 70% underclassmen
You return 16 starters if you count your specialists. There is a difference in "young" and "inexperienced". Just because you have underclassmen doesn't mean they don't have experience. Also, I saw something the other day that said 44% of your players will be in their 3rd or more year at AU (RS sophomores, Juniors, RSJ, SR, RSSr). You aren't THAT young. And you certainly don't lack experience.
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All of these "spread players" were recruited by Bama, UGA, LSU
Not all of them. Blocking schemes, as you know AMM, are different with spread than with a Pro style O. I think you've got talented O-linemen, but there will be growing pains for a few weeks.
Posted on 5/18/12 at 5:47 pm to bamasgot13
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You return 16 starters if you count your specialists. There is a difference in "young" and "inexperienced". Just because you have underclassmen doesn't mean they don't have experience. Also, I saw something the other day that said 44% of your players will be in their 3rd or more year at AU (RS sophomores, Juniors, RSJ, SR, RSSr). You aren't THAT young. And you certainly don't lack experience.
Exactly. That is why chizik has said we are young, not inexperienced this season. Anyone that denies that is just ignorant (I know you arne't denying it).
Next year, we will be both expereienced & old.
Posted on 5/18/12 at 5:48 pm to bamasgot13
If we are 2-0, we will be top 20...5-0, top 10.
Posted on 5/18/12 at 5:48 pm to bamasgot13
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You return 16 starters if you count your specialists
Moseley, McCalebb, Stallworth, Sullen, Carter, Evans, McNeal and Bell are all considered "returning starters" that may not start. Guys like Frazier, Grant/Blakely, Coates, Westerman, Wright, Frost, Whitehead, and Therezie may pass them up. If so, we are still a very young team, starting alot of sophomores and RS freshmen
This post was edited on 5/18/12 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 5/18/12 at 5:49 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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BTW it is sentences like that one that ruin some of your posts for me
Sorry to hear that. I've always respected you as both a scholar and a gentleman. I thought you felt the same.
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You are better than that
Some days, yes. Most days, no.
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And yes you were being condescending by the way you wrote it
Not sure I'd concede that point. I will say this, Chiz is in year 4. At some point you either have to stop blaming things on youth, or you take ownership of your own role in the team continually being young. As I said in the other post, there is a big difference in being "young" vs being "inexperienced". AU has 44% of their roster in their 3rd year or more. That isn't young. It's about average. You certainly aren't inexperienced with 16 starters returning.
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It's cool you will always be a gump at the end of the day right friend?
Never denied it friend.
Posted on 5/18/12 at 5:50 pm to bamasgot13
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Not all of them. Blocking schemes, as you know AMM, are different with spread than with a Pro style O. I think you've got talented O-linemen, but there will be growing pains for a few weeks.
If we ran an air raid spread I would probably agree with you here, but we ran downhill and the blocking schemes were basically the same as they would have been in a pro-style offense. I'm just glad Malzahn didn't continue the Tony Franklin 260lb o-line trend.
Posted on 5/18/12 at 5:51 pm to AMM AU9893
they'll end up in the top 20...somehow, auburn always seems to exceed expectations.
Posted on 5/18/12 at 5:54 pm to AA7
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If we ran an air raid spread I would probably agree with you here, but we ran downhill and the blocking schemes were basically the same as they would have been in a pro-style offense. I'm just glad Malzahn didn't continue the Tony Franklin 260lb o-line trend.
I forgot to mention this. It's not like we ran pure spread blocking schemes. Gus' attack was a downhill power running spread. The schemes won't be that much different
Posted on 5/18/12 at 5:56 pm to AMM AU9893
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The schemes won't be that much different
This. The biggest difference is going to be on the receivers and QB, however, it seems Kiehl is liking the new offense more
Linemen schemes are going to be very similar, and they won't take much adjusting to.
Posted on 5/18/12 at 5:57 pm to getback
Because they got their breaks beat off of them by every good team they played last year, and Kodi Frazier is the QB they are hoping will save them.
Posted on 5/18/12 at 6:01 pm to bamasgot13
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Sorry to hear that. I've always respected you as both a scholar and a gentleman. I thought you felt the same.
I do feel the same, but I will call you out when you allow your bias to show through on what otherwise may be an objective or cordial opinion. Don't take it so hard I do so mostly in jest and I thought you knew that about me.
quote:See you even admit as much.
Some days, yes. Most days, no.
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Not sure I'd concede that point. I will say this, Chiz is in year 4. At some point you either have to stop blaming things on youth, or you take ownership of your own role in the team continually being young. As I said in the other post, there is a big difference in being "young" vs being "inexperienced". AU has 44% of their roster in their 3rd year or more. That isn't young. It's about average. You certainly aren't inexperienced with 16 starters returning.
He has changed his tune and my fellow Aubies have posted some of his newer comments. You are going off of last years comments for your complaint against him.
You have to go homer every so often or what's the point of being a fan and a rival. It's all good bruh.
Posted on 5/18/12 at 6:05 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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I do so mostly in jest and I thought you knew that about me
I did. I was just messing around back at you. Hard to communicate tone in a post I guess. The whole 'scholar and a gentleman' was jokey.
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