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re: Why has espn wanted an Oregon-Alabama matchup so much recently
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:46 pm to sms151t
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:46 pm to sms151t
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The Harrington team that won the Fiesta may have been their best.
I think it was.
May not have made a difference but they should have at least played Miami for the title.
They whipped the team that destroyed Nebraska.
But Oregon was nobody at the time...and so they weren't taken seriously.
They shut down Colorado's running attack...with Olshansky.
That was the last great physical Oregon team.
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:48 pm to cascadia
You will get mauled by Alabama if you think comparing Auburns performance to Alabama by how you might do. We have players up front that were suited to handle their front 7. They do play the same style of football as Stanford, but they do it much much better.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:48 pm to MrAUTigers
I think Stanford is perceived as the best in the pac12
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:49 pm to Zamoro10
This team has finally found out you need to be big and everyone on the lines has increases their weight by 18+ pounds and everyone else has put on 15+ pounds in muscle such as MM (20 pounds) and Thomas Tuner ( also about 20 pounds).
This upcoming year should be good if Froatt learns how to play call.
This upcoming year should be good if Froatt learns how to play call.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:53 pm to Zamoro10
In 2003 our DL had Olshansky, Ngata, and Junior Siavii. We just had a run of bad luck after that with guys like Justin Thompson, Myles Wade and other 5* guys that became eligibility casualties. Then we had to go makeshift.
This year we have Armstead (5*), Balducci (4* army all American) and Buckner (4* top SDE on the west coast) on the three man front. Also, Tui Talia will be in the mix as the top JUCO DL in last year's cycle and he looks like a one man wrecking machine. By the way, Maloata that you passed on showed up a firm 313 pounds.
This will be the most athletic Oregon team ever next season. The problem will be inexperience concentrated at WR, depth of the DL, and at safety. However, I couldn't feel better about the athleticism. We'll see what happens.
This year we have Armstead (5*), Balducci (4* army all American) and Buckner (4* top SDE on the west coast) on the three man front. Also, Tui Talia will be in the mix as the top JUCO DL in last year's cycle and he looks like a one man wrecking machine. By the way, Maloata that you passed on showed up a firm 313 pounds.
This will be the most athletic Oregon team ever next season. The problem will be inexperience concentrated at WR, depth of the DL, and at safety. However, I couldn't feel better about the athleticism. We'll see what happens.
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:13 pm to plazadweller
You misunderstood my point. Everyone says since we lost to Auburn that we'd stand no chance at Bama, yet Bama lost to Auburn with their big team and style. That point is moosh.
The thing vs Stanford doesn't bother me. We lost last year because MM was playing on a bad knee and two years ago because DAT is stupid.
The thing vs Stanford doesn't bother me. We lost last year because MM was playing on a bad knee and two years ago because DAT is stupid.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:16 pm to hg
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Alabama can't handle that type of offense.
Stanford, a.k.a. Alabama-lite, could handle them. Why couldn't Alabama? The key to stopping Oregon is controlling the line of scrimmage. Oregon is a finesse running-based team. I doubt they would have run up the middle against Alabama last season as well as Auburn did, and they certainly wouldn't have had success in 2011 or 2012.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:20 pm to Cumulonimbus
Oregon lost a ton of interior linemen going into 2013. We were much more effective in 2012. We had Kyle Long, 1st round draft pick, and Ryan Clanton who threw up 225 42 times at pro day at the other spot.
You are really underestimating that Stanford defense. Skov, Tarpley, Murphy, Gardiner, Mauro, Anderson and that big arse secondary are all getting a chance to be Sunday players.
You are really underestimating that Stanford defense. Skov, Tarpley, Murphy, Gardiner, Mauro, Anderson and that big arse secondary are all getting a chance to be Sunday players.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:31 pm to bisonduck
Last year we lost to Stanford but Two years ago they were lucky to beat us. They have won two years in a row and sec fans act like that is forever.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:32 pm to bisonduck
Y'all need to beef up your oline. Ours and bama's dline is bigger and faster than your oline. That's a bad day
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:36 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
In one of by above posts it said that the line has gained over 20 pounds per person on average. Start of summer one guy gained about 30.
Don't know where they are at now but it should help a lot.
Don't know where they are at now but it should help a lot.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:53 pm to cascadia
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Last year we lost to Stanford but Two years ago they were lucky to beat us. They have won two years in a row and sec fans act like that is forever.
I know Oregon had back-to-back blowouts over Stanford in 2010 and 2011. Then Stanford found an answer. As Bison has stated, 2012 was the best Oregon team that ran Chip Kelly's style of offense. Most teams needed a couple of breaks to make it to a BCS Bowl, especially the national championship. Oregon did not get lucky in 2012; it happens. Last year was straight up domination; I watched the game. Yes, there may have been some busted coverages that Mariota could have taken advantage of, but overall Stanford was the better team when the game was played.
Did the team just quit after that loss? I ask because Arizona embarrassed y'all afterwards.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 4:02 pm to Cumulonimbus
I think the Arizona game was more of a they threw a punch and we decided after the Stanford loss that we didn't have the energy to want to compete so yeah we quit. The game vs Stanford, they just blew us up. Wasn't a blow out as a final but let's just say I am glad we lost before we got embarrassed in a big bowl.
When the sugar bowl had a chance of us vs Alabama I was hoping we wouldn't draw them because we would get beat down. Barely could anything vs Tejas.
This year, if Frost has learned how to call a game, should be different.
When the sugar bowl had a chance of us vs Alabama I was hoping we wouldn't draw them because we would get beat down. Barely could anything vs Tejas.
This year, if Frost has learned how to call a game, should be different.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 4:02 pm to Montezuma
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As an unbiased observer, this is an inaccurate statement. Two freak plays occured in those two games. And that was easily the best Oregon team in your history.
as an admittedly biased observer (lol), i still agree. before cam's untimely fumble, oregon was stuck at 11 points & auburn was chewing up the clock with success....when oregon responded on the fumble, auburn promptly answered back.
after the game, one of oregon's own sportswriters (forgot who, sorry) stated "if auburn needed to score more than 22 points to win, they would've"....
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 7/19/14 at 4:09 pm to David Cornwell
Beats the hell out of me, especially since Oregon usually can't even get past a Stanford to reach that point.
To be specific about Oregon, they never have had, and never probably will, have the line play to hang with the big boys.
I enjoy watching Oregon play, they are a entertaining type team. However, until they maybe start locking down more of those Somoan beasts on both lines, they just won't have the chest to play successfully with the 'big boys'.
To be specific about Oregon, they never have had, and never probably will, have the line play to hang with the big boys.
I enjoy watching Oregon play, they are a entertaining type team. However, until they maybe start locking down more of those Somoan beasts on both lines, they just won't have the chest to play successfully with the 'big boys'.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 4:14 pm to vandelay industries
I'm sorry but this post is bs. You don't hold off in the biggest game and Auburn's answer was a miracle. Auburn didn't answer, they were given a blessing.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 4:25 pm to SouthdownsTiger
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Beats the hell out of me, especially since Oregon usually can't even get past a Stanford to reach that point. To be specific about Oregon, they never have had, and never probably will, have the line play to hang with the big boys. I enjoy watching Oregon play, they are a entertaining type team. However, until they maybe start locking down more of those Somoan beasts on both lines, they just won't have the chest to play successfully with the 'big boys'.
LT - Johnstone (Rivals 154)
LG - Cameron Hunt (Rivals 213)
C - Horoniss Grasu (#12 position rank - 2nd round draft grade, Rimington watchlist)
RG - Hamani Stevens (Rivals 164)
RT - Jake Fisher (offers from Michigan, Florida, Michigan State 4* on 2/3 sites)
At some point, you have to assess whether this is a talent deficiency or a schematic/S&C philosophy. Oregon focused more on concentric strength training this offseason and the guys will be about 20 pounds heavier on average. I just don't believe this is a problem with recruiting. 4/5 guys we have had big boy offers and the 5th is projected high in the NFL draft next year.
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 7/19/14 at 4:25 pm to cascadia
they weren't "holding off"....but based on what played out up to that point (the fumble), it wasn't unreasonable for them to try eating clock & moving the chains.
auburn's answer a "miracle"? LOL...sure, dyer's run was heads-up on his part, but what about the rest of the drive? would it have made the detractors feel better if auburn just punched it in the end zone when they had the chance, instead of milking the clock down to the final seconds for the FG?
auburn's answer a "miracle"? LOL...sure, dyer's run was heads-up on his part, but what about the rest of the drive? would it have made the detractors feel better if auburn just punched it in the end zone when they had the chance, instead of milking the clock down to the final seconds for the FG?
Posted on 7/19/14 at 4:29 pm to vandelay industries
There was the Dyer run, the interception that wasn't to be, and we both had trips to the redzone that ended in nothing. That game could've gone a myriad of directions. If Darron was a little better decision maker in the game, he unlocks that defense. Throws to the boundary were errant and pitching the ball back to LMJ on the first drive was just down right uncharacteristic. The game ended 22-19. Give it up.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 4:30 pm to vandelay industries
Okay so you're saying after the miracle run they could have scored? No shite. Before then to say if they wanted to score more than 22 they would have is one of the most stupid things I have read. If they could have, they would have and not have kept it so close...
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