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re: Why has espn wanted an Oregon-Alabama matchup so much recently
Posted on 7/19/14 at 1:21 pm to boXerrumble
Posted on 7/19/14 at 1:21 pm to boXerrumble
That Florida team still had about 75-90% of the previous years team back. I'm guessing what you're saying is the departure of Mullen cause if that team had returned Murphy and Harvin, that would've been one of the most stacked offensive teams of all time.
The only reason Florida "suffered" that year is because of Addazio. That was a hell of a team regardless.
The only reason Florida "suffered" that year is because of Addazio. That was a hell of a team regardless.
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 1:24 pm to HailToTheChiz
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Bama would destroy Oregon
I agree.
And remember: Walt Disney owns 80% of ESPN (originally an abbreviation for Entertainment and Sports Programming Network). Disney considers itself the Great American Storyteller and the keeper of all Mythology.
ESPN too is in the business of entertainment, and to have a good story, you need heroes. Bama, ND, USC, Ohio State, Texas, and Oregon are some of ESPN's heroes. Bama v. Oregon will make a great story.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 1:40 pm to canbamafansread
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canbamafansread
cute
Posted on 7/19/14 at 1:51 pm to canbamafansread
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canbamafansread
Summer alter posters - gotta love the offseason.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 1:54 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
I believe two years ago when y'all played ND and we lost to Stanford ( still cry... DAT just needed to get in the way of one guy 
) I think would have been one of the better BCSCG of the era.
) I think would have been one of the better BCSCG of the era.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:06 pm to m2pro
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It would really turn out at BEST like the NC Auburn beat them in
so a toss up game that was one on a last second field goal?
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:09 pm to boXerrumble
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2008 - They couldn't hold Tebow down/
2009 - They did, but UF had a bunch of other issues in 09, and was nowhere near as good as 08 UF (which many Bama fans just happen to "forget")
Speaking of forget... I do remember Florida getting stopped on 3rd and short near midfield, while losing late 4th quarter. You were a 5 yard facemask away from losing that game. You squeaked by at best. Great game, reminded me of the first 3 sec champ games.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:09 pm to boXerrumble
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2008 - They couldn't hold Tebow down/
2009 - They did, but UF had a bunch of other issues in 09, and was nowhere near as good as 08 UF (which many Bama fans just happen to "forget")
2010 - Cam? LOL.
2011 - No great QBs that they faced really.
2012 - No. Manziel beat them.
2013 - No. They won, but Manziel absolutely destroyed them. And then Auburn beat them. To cap it off, Knight went crazy on that D in teh Sugar Bowl.
So for the majority? Bama has not had success vs that "caliber" of offense.
You forgot Utah 2008. Urban Myer's legacy on Utah.
When you really think about, Alabama generally has not been that successful at stopping the spread offenses ran at a high level. Saban has only stopped it once at Alabama. Even if you consider these flukes, Nick Saban defensive numbers versus other types of offenses are way better.
That doesn't mean Alabama can't beat Oregon ;however, it means really good spread offensives will put 21 points on Alabama. Can you say that about any other offense that Bama has faced? Nope
*Incoming down votes
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:10 pm to cascadia
That Bama offensive line was incredible. That ND front was pretty physical, so I don't know if I'd want a bludgeoning etched in my mind forever. That Bama offensive line probably dominates any front with a month to prepare.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:14 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
Oregon is fast but weak.
Alabama is slow but strong.
Clash of two styles.
/thread
Alabama is slow but strong.
Clash of two styles.
/thread
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:14 pm to bisonduck
I don't know, we had one of the best coaches too. Would have been a toss up IMO.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:21 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
Bama is built very much like USC was.
Despite all the passing flash...USC was a run-first power game...that focused on the D-line as their stars in disrupting an offense.
USC had great D-lines during their run...Big and powerful much like Bama.
USC dominated the Pac-12 back when it was a pure pass happy league...producing great QBs...and part of it's heritage...as the passing league back when the SEC was the running league...
It's a misnomer that up front completely destroys the spread Oregon attack...USC had that and couldn't destroy it.
Auburn struggled with Oregon far more than they did against Bama - despite every SEC fanbase acting like it was a whitewash...the game was a stuggle and Auburn won by a field goal despite hawving supposedly an awesome D-line and Fairley.
As J Manziel, USC's struggles and Saban's fear...have proved is that big lumbering, built to attack and kill teams like old Michigan, LSU, Ohio State under Tressell...
Have a big problem in space...and shifting, moving passing lanes, etc...QBs like Mariotti.
LSU did Bama the greatest favor in the world in winning national titles by being their biggest foe during this last period of football. That's what Bama is built for - straight up, line-up...mastodon football.
It's what USC was built for too during it's run...it's why USC destroyed SEC opponents and conservative OOC matchups like Ohio State.
But USC finally fell to Oregon...and spread and misdirection.
The LSU game was fumble-fest and a not a true barometer.
People say...well Stanford solved it and Stanford is conservative and physical and straight-line old school.
Stanford is far more a chameleon than people realize and faces these offenses on a daily basis...unlike the SEC.
It's a misnomer to project Stanford upon the future success.
And even when Stanford or Auburn would win in the vein...it was always a close game or missed breakaways. Oregon creates chances...they just have fumbled away those chances in big games - because they are always coming...spreading you out - making you work for it.
LSU has telegraphed everything against Bama as their main foe the last few years - relying on best recruiting. That's no way to play football if you want to have an edge.
Despite all the passing flash...USC was a run-first power game...that focused on the D-line as their stars in disrupting an offense.
USC had great D-lines during their run...Big and powerful much like Bama.
USC dominated the Pac-12 back when it was a pure pass happy league...producing great QBs...and part of it's heritage...as the passing league back when the SEC was the running league...
It's a misnomer that up front completely destroys the spread Oregon attack...USC had that and couldn't destroy it.
Auburn struggled with Oregon far more than they did against Bama - despite every SEC fanbase acting like it was a whitewash...the game was a stuggle and Auburn won by a field goal despite hawving supposedly an awesome D-line and Fairley.
As J Manziel, USC's struggles and Saban's fear...have proved is that big lumbering, built to attack and kill teams like old Michigan, LSU, Ohio State under Tressell...
Have a big problem in space...and shifting, moving passing lanes, etc...QBs like Mariotti.
LSU did Bama the greatest favor in the world in winning national titles by being their biggest foe during this last period of football. That's what Bama is built for - straight up, line-up...mastodon football.
It's what USC was built for too during it's run...it's why USC destroyed SEC opponents and conservative OOC matchups like Ohio State.
But USC finally fell to Oregon...and spread and misdirection.
The LSU game was fumble-fest and a not a true barometer.
People say...well Stanford solved it and Stanford is conservative and physical and straight-line old school.
Stanford is far more a chameleon than people realize and faces these offenses on a daily basis...unlike the SEC.
It's a misnomer to project Stanford upon the future success.
And even when Stanford or Auburn would win in the vein...it was always a close game or missed breakaways. Oregon creates chances...they just have fumbled away those chances in big games - because they are always coming...spreading you out - making you work for it.
LSU has telegraphed everything against Bama as their main foe the last few years - relying on best recruiting. That's no way to play football if you want to have an edge.
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:26 pm to cascadia
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We handled Auburn better than Alabama did.
As an unbiased observer, this is an inaccurate statement. Two freak plays occured in those two games. And that was easily the best Oregon team in your history.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:28 pm to Montezuma
Whoever said Mariotta isn't special or good is not paying attention. That man will rewrite records and is probably best QB in country right now.
Winston should be 1A in argument. But I would rather have Mariotta.
Winston should be 1A in argument. But I would rather have Mariotta.
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:32 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
you're giving Bama way too much credit oregon would put 40+ on them..Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:34 pm to Montezuma
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As an unbiased observer, this is an inaccurate statement. Two freak plays occured in those two games. And that was easily the best Oregon team in your history.
That was not our best team in our history. Talent wise, our best team was 2012. Kyle Long towards the end of the year really solidified that OL. It just happened that we couldn't overcome our offensive struggles against Stanford like we did @Cal '10.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:37 pm to Montezuma
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best Oregon team in your history.
The Harrington team that won the Fiesta may have been their best.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:42 pm to sms151t
The 2014 will be our most athletically gifted team in our history. However, we have some inexperience concentrated at WR and the depth on the DL that concern me. We are set up more than ever to handle a Bama or LSU.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:42 pm to TigerBait2008
It would all come down to Mariota.
He missed 3 big early chances against Stanford last year to put Oregon up 21-0.
He was off.
Then Oregon went purely run and was stifled.
Mariota can be amazing...but he can also be very off. The guy has tremendous skill...he's just frustrating sometimes in big games.
Look Oregon will always be out-manned against Bama...like they were out-manned against USC...but because they seem all flash with their spread...the rest of the team gets over-looked. Wisconsin didn't bully them - despite trying to - and Oregon won the Rose Bowl...
The deal with Oregon - like TAMU - is they were never out of a game - even if they are physically dominated...just like the Stanford game.
If Bama ran, ran, ran and the game was still close at 21-3 - 4th quarter...Oregon is still in it...
Oregon can play weak but they can also score in a flash...and make up huge deficits in a matter of minutes...like the old wishbone - all it takes is one mistake assignment on D and - BAM - Oregon gone for a TD.
I think this is why Saban hates this stuff - you have to rotate players in - you can't call signals on D - and you always have to be perfect on assignment.
He missed 3 big early chances against Stanford last year to put Oregon up 21-0.
He was off.
Then Oregon went purely run and was stifled.
Mariota can be amazing...but he can also be very off. The guy has tremendous skill...he's just frustrating sometimes in big games.
Look Oregon will always be out-manned against Bama...like they were out-manned against USC...but because they seem all flash with their spread...the rest of the team gets over-looked. Wisconsin didn't bully them - despite trying to - and Oregon won the Rose Bowl...
The deal with Oregon - like TAMU - is they were never out of a game - even if they are physically dominated...just like the Stanford game.
If Bama ran, ran, ran and the game was still close at 21-3 - 4th quarter...Oregon is still in it...
Oregon can play weak but they can also score in a flash...and make up huge deficits in a matter of minutes...like the old wishbone - all it takes is one mistake assignment on D and - BAM - Oregon gone for a TD.
I think this is why Saban hates this stuff - you have to rotate players in - you can't call signals on D - and you always have to be perfect on assignment.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:42 pm to Zamoro10
Mariota couldn't walk to days before the game. His mechanics were terrible because he was trying to play with a partially torn MCL.
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