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Why can't Auburn's secondary fly around and make plays like...

Posted on 9/4/11 at 9:52 am
Posted by TTsTowel
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 9/4/11 at 9:52 am
LSU's, Bama's, Florida's, etc...

It seems like since we lost Muschamp, our secondary just doesn't fly around and make plays. We didn't do it under Paul Rhoades, and we sure as hell aren't doing it under Roof.

We have obviously recruited well the past 2 classes, and you would think one of them would be out there making plays (i.e, Tyrann Mathieu as a true freshman and sophomore).

We never gets INTs, we hardly ever tip passes away, etc... It seems like the the players are in position, sometimes. But they never make the play. Then, sometimes, people are running wide open. When I watch LSU, Bama, and Florida, they don't have just one player around the ball - They have 2 and 3 making plays on the ball.

Thoughts, Auburn fans? I think we need to clean house on the defensive side. Roof needs to be gone for sure, and Thigpen may also be a problem. Just my opinion. I'm tired of this sorry arse defense.
Posted by Wincrimson
Titletown
Member since Apr 2006
2043 posts
Posted on 9/4/11 at 9:53 am to
Lack of talent.

You miss McNeill. And Thorpe, McNeal, etc aren't Mattheiu, Kirkpatrick, Menzie, Claiborne, etc.
Posted by Wincrimson
Titletown
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 9/4/11 at 9:54 am to
Anddddddd Bates is more concerned with using the hit stick than actually making the freaking tackle.

I guarandamntee that he bumped Lil Jon on the reg as a kid.
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
85829 posts
Posted on 9/4/11 at 9:54 am to
We have Ron Cooper

Bama has Saban

UF has Muschamp
/thread

I guess chizik needs to develop more thorp winners.
Posted by TheBigRed
Member since Mar 2011
200 posts
Posted on 9/4/11 at 9:54 am to
Chizik was hired for his defensive prowess. That's where the problem lies.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 9/4/11 at 9:55 am to
quote:

You miss McNeill.


He was the worse on the field last year, and the slowest. Had no ball skills.

quote:

And Thorpe, McNeal, etc aren't Mattheiu, Kirkpatrick, Menzie, Claiborne, etc


Thorpe and McNeal play safety, not CB.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 9/4/11 at 9:55 am to
quote:

Anddddddd Bates is more concerned with using the hit stick than actually making the freaking tackle


He's a linebacker, but I agree. I don't want him on the field at all.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 9/4/11 at 9:56 am to
quote:

I guess chizik needs to develop more thorp winners.


Out of all the practices I have seen (on video of course, and there have been tons), I've never seen him work with the DBs.
Posted by bona fide
Burma
Member since Jun 2010
8972 posts
Posted on 9/4/11 at 9:56 am to
quote:

clean house on the defensive side.


Long overdue
Posted by TheBigRed
Member since Mar 2011
200 posts
Posted on 9/4/11 at 9:57 am to
TTsTowel, you have been dodging my question for two days. Why does Chizik not get any blame for the defense. This is not a flame.
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30461 posts
Posted on 9/4/11 at 9:57 am to
I cannot remember who it was, but an AU fan was telling me how Muschamp did no good to AU's secondary and only hurt it when he was there.

P.S. Thanks for Marcus Roberson. He balled out last night and started.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42573 posts
Posted on 9/4/11 at 9:57 am to
I've heard Thig is around because he can recruit. I wish Chizik would just fire Teddy today and do it himself. I honestly think I could do a better job... And I'm just a poster on TD.com.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Member since Feb 2010
91649 posts
Posted on 9/4/11 at 9:57 am to
quote:

Long overdue


Agreed 100%

I think it was overdue after the poor 2009 season, but we gave him a pass because we were really thin in depth. No more excuses should be made now, Ted Roof.
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
85829 posts
Posted on 9/4/11 at 9:57 am to
But but he has past thorp winners right?
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 9/4/11 at 9:58 am to
quote:

Anddddddd Bates is more concerned with using the hit stick than actually making the freaking tackle.



This. Awesome freshman year at safety but he is a terrible linebacker.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Member since Feb 2010
91649 posts
Posted on 9/4/11 at 9:58 am to
quote:

TTsTowel, you have been dodging my question for two days. Why does Chizik not get any blame for the defense


Because, from everything I have seen, he doesn't run it. He lets his assistants do their jobs, Just my opinion.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42573 posts
Posted on 9/4/11 at 9:59 am to
I call BS to this. Mustychamp was loved by AU fans as much ad Malzahn is.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 9/4/11 at 9:59 am to
quote:

But but he has past thorp winners right?


When he was a DC, yes.
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30461 posts
Posted on 9/4/11 at 10:00 am to
I wouldn't blatantly lie to you about it. It was auzach and another AU fan on this board.
Posted by CrimsonFlounder
Gulf Coast
Member since Feb 2011
1057 posts
Posted on 9/4/11 at 10:00 am to
I think it has a lot to do with the style of defense you guys play. It seems you play a lot of base cover 2 and that is a read and react defense. Bama and LSU play more press coverages.
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